lewis hill Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Hi lads im trying to get some negative camber but the stock arms dont seem to want to give me anything. I have read they can give you up to -3 degree? Anyone know how to do this? Ive had my supra for 3 weeks now but as soon as i get the wheel on i'll be putting a post on new members cars Thanks in advance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Find you nearest 4 wheel lazer alignment shop, http://www.wheels-inmotion.co.uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewis hill Posted March 18, 2015 Author Share Posted March 18, 2015 Find you nearest 4 wheel lazer alignment shop, http://www.wheels-inmotion.co.uk Yeah i went to one but from what we could see it only really changed the toe, the camber barely moved but ive read you can get -3 so wondering if there is a special way to do it as you can use both arms to change toe so not sure how to do camber. I know you cant do one without the other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignum Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 The concentric adjuster bolts are probably seized, they`re a pita to get out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 No special way really, undo the eccentric adjusters on both the toe and camber arms and rotate them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 Hi lads im trying to get some negative camber but the stock arms dont seem to want to give me anything. I have read they can give you up to -3 degree? Anyone know how to do this? Ive had my supra for 3 weeks now but as soon as i get the wheel on i'll be putting a post on new members cars Thanks in advance Front or rear? Presumably front! The stock adjusters won't give 3 degrees unless the car is so low as to be on the bump stops, with a chronic roll centre height and chronic camber change in bump and roll. The correct way to achieve the figures you are after is with a combination of slightly longer bottom arms and slightly shorter top arms, like NISMO supply for Skylines for track usage. Or fabricate some. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewis hill Posted March 19, 2015 Author Share Posted March 19, 2015 Front or rear? Presumably front! The stock adjusters won't give 3 degrees unless the car is so low as to be on the bump stops, with a chronic roll centre height and chronic camber change in bump and roll. The correct way to achieve the figures you are after is with a combination of slightly longer bottom arms and slightly shorter top arms, like NISMO supply for Skylines for track usage. Or fabricate some. Oh sorry I meant to say rear camber! Okay well I can't seem to find anything out there that isn't £700-1000 lol I work for a steel firm so could maybe fabricate something. I'm guessing you can't really touch the oem parts? Think I remember reading they are cast? I did try moving top and rear arm but camber didn't really change much but the toe did move quite a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 Whilst it's sod all to do with me professional curiosity makes me ask why the hell you would want to try and get 3 degress camber on the rear....? *PLEASE* don't say it's to make the top of the tyre clear the arch, I am depressed enough today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T2 MSW Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 Whilst it's sod all to do with me professional curiosity makes me ask why the hell you would want to try and get 3 degress camber on the rear....? *PLEASE* don't say it's to make the top of the tyre clear the arch, I am depressed enough today! Ahhhahaha. poss best you turn a blind eye to this thread Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 When we were setting my car up we easily got to 2 degrees on the rear, that was on the Eibach pro sport lowering springs 30 mm front 25 mm rear - - - Updated - - - Whilst it's sod all to do with me professional curiosity makes me ask why the hell you would want to try and get 3 degress camber on the rear....? *PLEASE* don't say it's to make the top of the tyre clear the arch, I am depressed enough today! Run forest run Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 I never cease to be amazed at the ingenuity used to wreck a well handling car in the interest of "style" or that dreadful Americanism "stance".... 3 degrees of rear camber will make the thing all but un-drivable, and assuredly dangerous, especially in the wet, plus inner edge tyre wear will be horrendous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 Just for you Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 Thankfully it's only a short matter of time before such abortions are banned from the public highways Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 Here's a story that'll make you cringe http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2987698/Car-enthusiast-banned-roads-driving-heavily-pregnant-sister-death-trap-BMW-faulty-brakes-bald-tyres-weren-t-right-size-wires-dangling-glove-box.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewis hill Posted March 19, 2015 Author Share Posted March 19, 2015 Haha well I had -4 and -5 camber on rear of my 350z and it wasn't even that bad to be honest. Still put power down and handled pretty good in wet conditions. Well I've lowered it on be coilovers and tried to fit my 350z wheels on the supra but it stuck out by 50mm so probably going to put 4" dishes and a bit of camber. I couldn't seem to get much but maybe I should lower it a lot more then try again, I had it lowered maybe 40mm over stock and could only get the toe to move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewis hill Posted March 19, 2015 Author Share Posted March 19, 2015 When we were setting my car up we easily got to 2 degrees on the rear, that was on the Eibach pro sport lowering springs 30 mm front 25 mm rear - - - Updated - - - Run forest run How low was you when you got -3? Just wondering if sitting too high is not helping as i know it cambers anyway as you lower it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T2 MSW Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 Told you to look away Chris -4 degrees on a 350Z and you recon it handled well?!?! Id love to see that up against my brothers 350Z which is seriously well setup and even I have been impressed by the way that handles on track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewis hill Posted March 19, 2015 Author Share Posted March 19, 2015 Told you to look away Chris -4 degrees on a 350Z and you recon it handled well?!?! Id love to see that up against my brothers 350Z which is seriously well setup and even I have been impressed by the way that handles on track. Well that's completely different if we're comparing it to a car for the track lol I haven't and won't rag my cars round a track, I meant around the streets it handled well when cornering and that. Obviously won't be anywhere near as good as perfect set up but still didn't spin out on me or anything. Seemed to hold the road quite well I thought Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T2 MSW Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 What possible reason could you have for wanting to run -4/-5 degrees of camber or -3 on a supra, besides wanting to look stupid? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignum Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 like I said your camber bolts are seized pfft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewis hill Posted March 19, 2015 Author Share Posted March 19, 2015 like I said your camber bolts are seized pfft Haha well I'm trying to get as much of an aggressive set up as possible. The bigger the dish the better! I don't really see the point in some of these custom ccw's with like 1-2" dish. I was at a shop that does tracking yesterday and their machine told you where to change camber and toe. The bolts were not rusted so easy to undo, put them to max settings. We could only really change the toe. Unless the machine is telling the wrong info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T2 MSW Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 Prob best taking to to somewhere that knows what they are doing then, rather than being instructed what to undo and move. The lasers or camera system should really only be used to validate the settings that are being input to the car. I believe Wheels in Motion has already been suggested in this thread. They are prob the best guys for the job in your area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 You can adjust camber and toe at the rear, they interact when adjusted of course. At the front you can adjust camber, castor and toe. Plenty of scope to bugger the car up there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 For the love of god. At least this isn't in tech. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManwithSupra Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 I am feeling so sad because of this thread Can you not buy a Saxo and do it to that... please not a descent car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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