Konrad Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 An when people talk about debt as a country, it is debt that the government should take a responsibility for. It isn't you or I who put the country into debt, we all pay huge amount of taxes, multiple revenues why are we at a stage we are spending more than we are earning. It is the fundamentals of basic finance, but I guess greed is something that wasn't taught in school. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financialcrisis/3162204/Financial-crisis-Turmoil-in-Iceland-puts-councils-funds-at-risk.html But why would Government take any responsibility for ANYTHING. They are working for mere 60k/month wages + benefits, you can't expect them poor lot to commit themself THAT much. It's so easy to promise moon on the stick to great unwashed so they vote for you and then borrow till cows go home, splash it on everyone (including yourself) and wave goodbye after 5 years leaving next team with all mess and more borrowing. If you would do it the way government is, you would be locked in jail and all your properties would be auctioned to pay off debt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 Actually it's £67k a year, and according to two peers it isn't a full time job!!! wonder we're in such a mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abz Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 But why would Government take any responsibility for ANYTHING. They are working for mere 60k/month wages + benefits, you can't expect them poor lot to commit themself THAT much. It's so easy to promise moon on the stick to great unwashed so they vote for you and then borrow till cows go home, splash it on everyone (including yourself) and wave goodbye after 5 years leaving next team with all mess and more borrowing. If you would do it the way government is, you would be locked in jail and all your properties would be auctioned to pay off debt. Indeed!! I just love how people think another group of promisers are going to make a difference Actually it's £67k a year, and according to two peers it isn't a full time job!!! wonder we're in such a mess. Don't forget the second house in London paid for us and the amount of claims fiddling! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 This is one thing I find utterly stupid, skilled people who want to move around have all these hoops to jump through, yet the bottom feeders with no skills can move around freely and get paid to do it. thank Labour for that...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Massey Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 thank Labour for that...... Yep, but most people will blame the current party, no matter who is in charge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westcoaster Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 I'll leave this here: [ATTACH=CONFIG]197987[/ATTACH] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky-Ricky Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 That about sums up all politician's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Supes Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 I honestly don't know what the solution is, but I know UKIP aren't 'it'. Its a sad state of affairs we're in. None of them can be trusted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Massey Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 I honestly don't know what the solution is, but I know UKIP aren't 'it'. Its a sad state of affairs we're in. None of them can be trusted. I think UKIP are a start to the solution. Not because of what they promise, or offer. But the mere fact it will give a kick to the balls to the other parties, a wake up call, a huge reminder that this is our country, the public choose a party to run it on our behalf, for our benefit and the benefit of the country as a whole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 I think UKIP are a start to the solution. Not because of what they promise, or offer. But the mere fact it will give a kick to the balls to the other parties, a wake up call, a huge reminder that this is our country, the public choose a party to run it on our behalf, for our benefit and the benefit of the country as a whole. Agree with that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadMax2042 Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 I think UKIP are a start to the solution. Not because of what they promise, or offer. But the mere fact it will give a kick to the balls to the other parties, a wake up call, a huge reminder that this is our country, the public choose a party to run it on our behalf, for our benefit and the benefit of the country as a whole. Nail, head, hammer. Well said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemesis Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 Hope you're all right, but have my reservations. Trusting the great British public.... In a "western democracy" people get the government that they deserve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted February 27, 2015 Author Share Posted February 27, 2015 Hope you're all right, but have my reservations. Trusting the great British public.... In a "western democracy" people get the government that they deserve. ONLY if you have proportional representation! which we DONT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemesis Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 ONLY if you have proportional representation! which we DONT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozz Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 Really? With the access to voting and information that we have I thought we had one of the most representative governments in the world. Happy to hear why you think that isn't so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemesis Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 Really? With the access to voting and information that we have I thought we had one of the most representative governments in the world. Happy to hear why you think that isn't so. I agree..... and we'll still get the government that we deserve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Supes Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 I think UKIP are a start to the solution. Not because of what they promise, or offer. But the mere fact it will give a kick to the balls to the other parties, a wake up call, a huge reminder that this is our country, the public choose a party to run it on our behalf, for our benefit and the benefit of the country as a whole. Oh, they're worthy of a protest vote, but I think that's about it for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Massey Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 Oh, they're worthy of a protest vote, but I think that's about it for me. Yeah, there is a few policies of theirs that I like and agree with. But with any party, it's mainly promises to get votes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Supes Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 Yeah, there is a few policies of theirs that I like and agree with. But with any party, it's mainly promises to get votes. Absolutely, the zero tolerance policing is slightly concerning. No police officer should have that sort of power. Power corrupts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tony Posted February 28, 2015 Author Share Posted February 28, 2015 Have a read http://www.findlaw.co.uk/law/government/constitutional_law/reform/500151.html:) Ozz & Nemesis it's intresting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abz Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 Have a read http://www.findlaw.co.uk/law/government/constitutional_law/reform/500151.html:) Ozz & Nemesis it's intresting Wow that is very interesting indeed, so interesting they removed the link! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted February 28, 2015 Author Share Posted February 28, 2015 only on that 5 minutes ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted February 28, 2015 Author Share Posted February 28, 2015 http://www.findlaw.co.uk/law/government/constitutional_law/reform/500151.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemesis Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTClWHDn2rdnht_-jNh_mp5r9kN7w0lmfzPBuQ2rUCD51wHECquKQ Just so you know where I stand Tony. Oh, and we hold the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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