Nick Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 If you don't mind me asking, what kind of budget do you have in mind for the build? I'm been a big fan of the Star Road and Rocky Auto cars and seen them up close at various shows and events in Japan. Big big money though, looking at around £100k for a ground up restoration with all the extra's. Obviously most of that is spent on labour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamc Posted March 19, 2015 Author Share Posted March 19, 2015 15-20k, without considering engine, gearbox, brakes, suspension, interior Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamc Posted May 6, 2016 Author Share Posted May 6, 2016 Quick update Just ordered up the final bits of metal I require (the rear inner arches) and as soon as they are done the car will be prepped to be painted. Sadly, still undecided on colour (gunmetal grey or blue).......... Have bought:- Wheels and tyres Bumpers (bought ages ago) Arch extenders (bought ages ago) Fender mirrors (bought ages ago) Side clear indicators (bought ages ago) Have ordered:- Repair panels Front valiance Front clear indicators Rear strut brace Master bushing kit Still to order:- Shocks Springs Going to leave the interior as it was for now (expect for refurbing steering wheel, gearknob and replacing a small broken panel) to see what state it is actually in, been so long since I actually had the car! But will eventually add/replace seats, seatbelts, harnesses and fix the dash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamc Posted May 10, 2016 Author Share Posted May 10, 2016 Finally bits of metal have just arrived at workshop so this should be getting done over the next few days and then shell will be prepped for paint.......... and I thought I was decided on colour, then saw this red, which I now love Full article http://www.speedhunters.com/2016/02/old-dogs-new-tricks-datsun-z-2-flavours/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavin.starr Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 That looks spectacular in that colour I think it’s the red/black combo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamc Posted May 11, 2016 Author Share Posted May 11, 2016 That looks spectacular in that colour I think it’s the red/black combo I love the red and black combo, hence the GTR being exactly that Right now, that is in 1st place and this is a close 2nd http://machine66.com/img/2016/01/Datsun-240z-.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy442 Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 This was at Cadwell Park tonight, looked and sounded amazing. I really want one now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamc Posted May 12, 2016 Author Share Posted May 12, 2016 What engine is that? I cant tell....... fuel system and coilovers look well sorted for the track Car looks great......... dont you suppose you have a video? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 Hard to see if it's a cross flow or none cross flow head, if it's a none cross flow it is probably a Vauxhall / Opel 2.8 or 3 litre from something like a Rekord or a Commodore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamc Posted May 12, 2016 Author Share Posted May 12, 2016 thanks Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spikedjack Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 Genuinely have a big love for these. Watching eagerly for updates Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamc Posted May 12, 2016 Author Share Posted May 12, 2016 This was at Cadwell Park tonight, looked and sounded amazing. I really want one now! http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j40/Swampy29/EC808A09-7D8F-458B-B709-B100BE774839_zpszolx6htb.jpg http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j40/Swampy29/E105A2BB-24FD-4C5C-8D71-3217592890E1_zpsyf2085cz.jpg Found out who the owner is, he owned for a few years, fastest non turbo fuel injected 240z at Pod and its being Time Attacked this year. Trying to find full spec list Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest S Kiddell Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 (edited) First post to introduce myself I'm the owner of the 240Z mentioned Thanks for the kind comments , the spec of the car is huge but a few points All steel engine (from a 280ZX) bored and stroked to 3 litres Farndon Crank fully counterweighted Long Carillo rods JE slipper pistons Custom CNC head Custom valves, cam (my design), springs etc Triple Jenvey throttle bodies Emerald ECU Custom tank with 300ZX turbo pump inside S14a gearbox Electric waterpump and Davis Craig controller 16 row Oil cooler Large sump T3 coilover struts and control arms with 300lb springs and Koni shocks Quaife ATB Wilwood brakes and polymatrix race pads 16 x 8.5 Watanabe R's with Trofeo R 245's (control tyre for Time Attack) Carbon fibre shell seats, carbon bonnet, over fenders etc Half roll cage The list goes on, I built the engine and gearbox (well pretty much the whole car actually) Car runs a 12.4 at Santa pod and 0-60 in 4 Dyno figures of 297 HP at the fly with 260 Ft/Lbs......not big by FI standards but 100 hp per litre with 2 valves and a single cam isn't to bad Great fun to drive, we were shaking down at Cadwell trying to cure some under steer, learning in the process that excessive caster and camber don't always work Regards all Edited May 12, 2016 by S Kiddell (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamc Posted May 12, 2016 Author Share Posted May 12, 2016 First post to introduce myself I'm the owner of the 240Z mentioned Thanks for the kind comments , the spec of the car is huge but a few points All steel engine (from a 280ZX) bored and stroked to 3 litres Farndon Crank fully counterweighted Long Carillo rods JE slipper pistons Custom CNC head Custom valves, cam (my design), springs etc Triple Jenvey throttle bodies Emerald ECU Custom tank with 300ZX turbo pump inside S14a gearbox Electric waterpump and Davis Craig controller 16 row Oil cooler Large sump T3 coilover struts and control arms with 300lb springs and Koni shocks Quaife ATB Wilwood brakes and polymatrix race pads 16 x 8.5 Watanabe R's with Trofeo R 245's (control tyre for Time Attack) Carbon fibre shell seats, carbon bonnet, over fenders etc Half roll cage The list goes on, I built the engine and gearbox (well pretty much the whole car actually) Car runs a 12.4 at Santa pod and 0-60 in 4 Dyno figures of 297 HP at the fly with 260 Ft/Lbs......not big by FI standards but 100 hp per litre with 2 valves and a single cam isn't to bad Great fun to drive, we were shaking down at Cadwell trying to cure some under steer, learning in the process that excessive caster and camber don't always work Regards all Thanks for posting, its an awesome spec and some decent numbers for the car Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 Very nice, and as a multiple Farndon crank owner, I have to say you have impeccable taste in rotating engine parts Who did the head, I think that is what threw me as to the engine's origin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest S Kiddell Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 Very nice, and as a multiple Farndon crank owner, I have to say you have impeccable taste in rotating engine parts Who did the head, I think that is what threw me as to the engine's origin I really like Farndon cranks but just wish they did decent in house balancing, had to take the whole lot to Coventry balancing (now defunct I think) Re the head, I wanted a good combustion balance so did some research on CNC machined heads, contacted Rik Wood at CNC heads, hugely knowledgeable guy, they did a great job, well worth the wait, doing it by hand just wouldn't get the results I needed, I then had a cam made to suit the flow and lift (585 thou lift with 307/8 duration), large high revving 2 valve engines really benefit from scavenging so had the lift on overlap set as big as I could get, as long as the gas speed is high it works really well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 Ahh, Ric Wood, I know him well and used to race with (against) him. Have you used his engine dyno, it's a cracker? Lovely motor, I daren't even think what that lost has cost! I have to say I must have been lucky with my Farndon cranks, and they showed perfect balance. I had them done as I like to balance internals and externals individually and then double check as an assembly. Then I can just change a damper or flywheel without upsetting the whole dynamic balance of the engine. I bet that trundles along pretty smartly! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy442 Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 Nice to meet you last night Mr Kiddell, and as I said my favourite car at the track last night, hands down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest S Kiddell Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 Lovely motor, I daren't even think what that lost has cost! As you know naturally aspirated power doesn't come cheap , I could have put an RB or a 1JZ or even a BMW M3 lump in it (as others have) for a fraction of the price but I wanted to keep the spirit of the car alive, they were never built as a forced induction car. The 1st 250 HP came fairly easily some years ago but the last 50 was a real squeeze, 100 hp/litre with 2 valves and 1 cam is a real struggle, but now its done I think I could squeeze another 20 or 30 out of it with a slight change to the exhaust valve and a little bit more compression (its already 12:1 static). Nice to meet you last night Mr Kiddell, and as I said my favourite car at the track last night, hands down. Thank you, its greatly appreciated. Now all we have to do is get rid of the understeer and we are away....need to get my head around roll centres, Ackerman angles and steering inclination. Once again fellas thanks for the kind comments. Regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy442 Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 You should spend a chunk of time talking to Mr Wislon above, I reckon you 2 are kindred spirits. Theres not much that man doesnt know about setting race car up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamc Posted May 17, 2016 Author Share Posted May 17, 2016 You should spend a chunk of time talking to Mr Wislon above, I reckon you 2 are kindred spirits. Theres not much that man doesnt know about setting race car up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Very nice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamc Posted July 15, 2016 Author Share Posted July 15, 2016 Well since the GTR has stayed red (no wrap) I need to find a new colour for the 240z Starting to dry fit parts before the respray Wheels look a little wide Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamc Posted August 3, 2016 Author Share Posted August 3, 2016 Starting to look like an actual car again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nolizma Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 Looking great mate. I hope you don't mind if i leave this here: http://jpx.responsejp.com/jpx/images/2016/06/09/276661_1.jpg?fit=normal That's the color I would go for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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