Scott Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 Cheers Scott, but they already had to do that the gearbox and then the DBW take up most of the inputs on the S6 plus. Wow, thats a lot of inputs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted February 17, 2016 Author Share Posted February 17, 2016 Wow, thats a lot of inputs To quote Romain: In the S6Plus you have got, you have 22 configurable inputs On the PnP harness you will already use 17 of them including DBW (4) and the Auto gearbox (6) Which leave you only 5 inputs Traction control can use 4 but we only use 2 here, one front speed sensor and one rear speed sensor Then the calibration switch is another one And Fuel pressure and oil pressure are the last one we use Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 (edited) Regarding the inputs, it's possible to use 1 front wheel and one rear wheel for the wheel speed sensing for the TC if that was a help. It saved 2 inputs for me Does this compromise the traction control, if you only have one front and one rear wheel speed being monitored? ie. It'll know the relative speed front vs rear but won't know if only one of the front or rear wheels that isn't monitored loses traction. Edited February 17, 2016 by Nic (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Bullitt Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 If I were you I'd pick up a CW SMIC, it would be perfect for your power goals and more. It will allow you to fit the active spoiler, use the OEM ducting but you know this already Is the car running? How many sensors did you go for in the end? Does the S6+ use any of the original OEM ones? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 To quote Romain: Stick an I/O expander on it, syvecs sell them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 Stick an I/O expander on it, syvecs sell them. I was going to suggest that, Whifbitz sell them also. I can't help but think why was this not all thought of before, by the people who sell this stuff? They know it's Auto, they know it's DBW, they know you have the Cal, they know you want this and that, etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 Or go with an aftermarket DBW that doesn't need 4 inputs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted February 17, 2016 Author Share Posted February 17, 2016 If I was 100% sure the CW intercooler would drop the intake temps enough, I would use it. The CW intercooler is £1k, which is risking a lot of money, plus fitting and mapping etc, when I may not be in a much better position than I am now. I may look at them again in the future. Curiously, I discovered yesterday that Greddy used to make twin side mount intercoolers for the Supra. But I doubt I'd be able to find one. Yes, as far as I'm aware the car is running perfectly now. Still not sure if the gearbox management is 100%, but that can be sorted during mapping if not. - - - Updated - - - Stick an I/O expander on it, syvecs sell them. Aren't they like £800? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted February 17, 2016 Author Share Posted February 17, 2016 I was going to suggest that, Whifbitz sell them also. I can't help but think why was this not all thought of before, by the people who sell this stuff? They know it's Auto, they know it's DBW, they know you have the Cal, they know you want this and that, etc To be fair, after discussing the ecu setup with several parties, I sourced it myself, so really the issue was my Naivety. At no point did I list out all the different things I wanted in one place, and I even bought the components at different times to take advantage of offers and discounts. As for the DBW conversion, it's the only off the shelf conversion around at the moment. It's a very neat solution, and I know Ryan rates the Bosch DBW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 To be fair, after discussing the ecu setup with several parties, I sourced it myself, so really the issue was my Naivety. Fair enough, but i'd still expect some advice from the people who you're spending money with to get the results before hand, not at the 11th hour during attempted mapping? Just my view i suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted February 17, 2016 Author Share Posted February 17, 2016 And as Paul said earlier, it's been a learning curve for us all, even Romain,as my car is the first with this setup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 Aren't they like £800? Don't be tight, let your money buy you happiness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted February 17, 2016 Author Share Posted February 17, 2016 Don't be tight, let your money buy you happiness We haven't all got a bottomless pit of toy funds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 Does this compromise the traction control, if you only have one front and one rear wheel speed being monitored? ie. It'll know the relative speed front vs rear but won't know if only one of the front or rear wheels that isn't monitored loses traction. As it doesn't limit power to individual wheels I don't think it matters..... as long as you have an LSD As soon as rear slippage is noticed, it will be assumed it's from the rear axle in total so the power is cut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Bullitt Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 Stick an I/O expander on it, syvecs sell them. Aren't they like £800? Apparently you can't fit an I/O expander to the S6 plus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted February 19, 2016 Author Share Posted February 19, 2016 Small update, the fuel pump has been swapped, and fuel pressure is spot on now. FMIC is fitted, and apparently Romain is going to have the car this afternoon to get the car driving properly with some road mapping, and it will be mapped next Tuesday all being well. Apparently you can't fit an I/O expander to the S6 plus. Plus, I wonder how that would compare price wise to an S12? Are the Syvecs P&P looms compatible with the s8 and s12 models too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Bullitt Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 Plus, I wonder how that would compare price wise to an S12? Are the Syvecs P&P looms compatible with the s8 and s12 models too? Not too sure but for that price you are in MoTeC territory Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Bullitt Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 Small update, the fuel pump has been swapped, and fuel pressure is spot on now. FMIC is fitted, and apparently Romain is going to have the car this afternoon to get the car driving properly with some road mapping, and it will be mapped next Tuesday all being well. Stop tempting fate, all is and will be well Dyno is great for numbers and ego massaging but as you have already said your main purpose with this build is on how it all pans out on the road as that where it matters. It will be nice to get some feedback, good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted February 19, 2016 Author Share Posted February 19, 2016 Yeah, i'm not looking forward to the dyno for the numbers, just because that should signify it's all finished and safe to drive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellonman Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 See you next tuesday then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted February 19, 2016 Author Share Posted February 19, 2016 See you next tuesday then Can you say that in 'txt spk' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitbox Junkie Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 best dyno is butt dyno looking forward to the numbers though great build so far =D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MATT RR Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 good timing for the dyno mate, fingers crossed it goes well, if it does im still heading down to Cheshunt nr Enfield Thursday if you want a free ride down...............very early start though probably 5am leaving York Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Bullitt Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 So.....did you hear how they got on with the road mapping? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted February 19, 2016 Author Share Posted February 19, 2016 No, I spoke to Paul just before Romain was due, so I'll speak to him on Monday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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