Elmo Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 I read this, is what they are saying accurate, are strut braces a pointless upgrade on a Supra?? I'd be interested to know what you guys think about the subject Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tooquicktostop Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 They look nice but most of them are so flimsy or "adjustable" that they must be useless, I have never felt any real difference for road use Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 I've felt a difference on cars in the past, but they do have to be substantial bits of kit to have any effect. Most I see are flimsy and some are even hinged! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 A well made one like a TRD one must stiffen things up a bit, i bet it's hardly noticeable. The Carbing one is best for the supra IMO, as it has the build in Master cylinder brace which vastly increases pedal feel, from people who've used it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy442 Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 Quite a few cars have them as standard, the Aristo for example, same chassis and similar weight to the Supra, has a big, beefy brace. So they must have a purpose, but as above, a lot of them look too flimsy to be of any actual benefit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmo Posted August 12, 2014 Author Share Posted August 12, 2014 "STB are no better than a piece of rope tied between both strut tower" Not much of an exaggeration then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignum Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 Sure I noticed some difference when I added 1, on track that is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 It can't hurt, plenty of OEM cars have them, nissan added one to the MY11 GTR to aid handling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobUK Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 It's worth it on an aerotop as it reduces the flex when the roof is off.. I'm sure it's probably physco logical but it does seem to help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjy Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 My Carbing one makes a difference. Feels like there's a bit of air been let out of the tyres at the front under hard, spirited cornering. And the brakes feel slightly less responsive under heavier braking too. Gets in the way when you're trying to do stuff under the bonnet, but transforms the car when you fling it around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 This is really aimed at Chris Wilson, but one would assume a certain amount of flex is preferential on a road car, to aid compliance with our crap road surfaces? The most substantial ones I've seen for the Supra are the excellent carbing ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supra N_A Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 had a rear brace..front and c pillar noticed nothing apart from mind thinking this is better due to fitting them but noo looks kool thow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mugello Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 I have personally felt the difference on cars I have owned in the past with front and rear braces fitted. I never intended my supra build to have front and rear braces though, but they came along at a price I couldn't turn down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 A thicker/stiffer ARB would have more of a noticeable difference. For me, completely pointless on Supra as the turret tops just serve as a mounting face for the suspension. The only way it would make a noticeable difference is if the brace triangulated to the bulkhead. A lot of it is in peoples heads because they expect it to feel different but hey that's just my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangerous brain Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 It's worth it on an aerotop as it reduces the flex when the roof is off.. I'm sure it's probably physco logical but it does seem to help A couple of bolt in bars in the roof area for when the roof is out might fix the jelly wobble aero tops suffer with the roof out. I remember once parking mine with the front wheels up a lump and I had to back the car up as I couldn't get the roof back in. I perceived an increase in rigidity on my aerotop with a brace fitted but wether that was placebo effect or not I don't know. How would you quantify it anyway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 Uprated anti-roll bars had a notable effect for me. Can't really say the same about the TRD top engine brace, but it looks nice and shiny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlton Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 Definitely noticed the difference once I put a front and rear brace on my Aerotop, I don't push mine into corners etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendo11 Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 My front strut brace cost me £30. I can assure you it serves no mechanical purpose whatsoever and is purely aesthetic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsia Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 I've been wondering this myself, I want to bring my engine bay to look as clean and stock as possible, but I've got a Cusco strut brace at the minute, which really doesn't fit in with the rest of the bay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Rear braces on a mkiv are pointless, it's braced already with two plates. Most front braces are a waste of time as they are hinged, the solid ones like the carbing should be better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little num Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Just so happens I have a brand new whiteline Front ARB for sale so if you want it to feel stiffer and handle better then cheap upgrade £125 posted. check the for sale section for pics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlton Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 I read this, is what they are saying accurate, are strut braces a pointless upgrade on a Supra?? I'd be interested to know what you guys think about the subject Just read some of the link and noticed it was in the mkiii section, despite what others have said here they do make a difference in an mkiv aerotop with the roof off! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sideexitsupra Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 I never noticed any difference. Probably just a tad slower due to the extra weight, lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Knightrider1980 Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 I noticed a difference when I bought my Tein front and rear strut braces, I noticed an even bigger difference when I installed my Tein superstreet suspension, cornering is very much improved with a full set-up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackyBoi Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 IMO a strut brace is just another marketing technique so that people buy more things for their car. It also just means one extra modification when it comes to insurance. Some people say it makes a difference, other say it doesn't, so in reality it's all down to whether or not you like having a strut brace blocking your engine bay I joke... But seriously I've never seen even a slight difference with a struct brace on or off. Now anti-roll bars, that's where stuff gets real! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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