msmile Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 (edited) Hi guys! Today Im starting my v8 project, using Toyota 1uz-fe vvti engine and w58 manual gearbox. When I say today, I mean the idea started nearly a year ago, the engine lies in my garage for 6mnths and research was in progress through all that time Appreciate some advice and support from quite a few guys including Lyndon and Mike from this forum Will update you with the pics as I go. If Im extremely lucky, looking to end the project by September Many will ask why not 2jzgte, so heres main points why: - 1uz is 70kg lighter - u can still use w58, which saves you another 20kg - u get same amount of power from both stock engines - u get no turbo lag and higher torque at low revs - with 1uz you get weight distribution of 50/50 - with few other minor weight reductions looking for overall car weight under 1300kg - 1uz is one of the most reliable engines yet built - with my budget project Im looking for half the price of 2jzgte conversion - Im looking to improove the car for circuits, not drag racing. For those who's tired of reading the whole thread, here's a poor first start: Edited October 9, 2014 by msmile (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msmile Posted August 3, 2014 Author Share Posted August 3, 2014 (edited) Heres my engine. It has done 110k miles, has no oil leaks at all, with full Toyota service history. As it has been of the car for couple years, alloy parts does look oxydated, so did some refurb. Not sure about colour tho, hope it looks nice when inside the engine bay lol. P.S. how do I attach pics so they are seen without link? Edited August 3, 2014 by msmile (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msmile Posted August 3, 2014 Author Share Posted August 3, 2014 (edited) Had also made a poor video of my N/A 0-100 to make comparison later 0-60 - 5.7s, 0-100 - 13.8s. Not the best driving, still not too bad for a stock N/A Edited August 3, 2014 by msmile (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOGIE Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 Please do a detailed write up and see this through to the end. I always wanted to do a 3UZ install years back but I ended up being like a sheep and doing what everyone else does and went NA-TT. As it turns out I prefer building/working on them more than I do driving them. So a V8 build may happen for me yet. I'll watch this with interest mate. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie-S Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 This sounds very interesting, I like your reasoning and thought process - looks like a very viable option so as with Logie I'll watch with interest. Good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msmile Posted August 3, 2014 Author Share Posted August 3, 2014 Thanks guys! Will keep you updated as much as possible. The engine is now getting shape, few more bits to do - change the sump and oil filter mount. The fun part starts after its fitted to the engine bay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msmile Posted August 5, 2014 Author Share Posted August 5, 2014 (edited) ok, heres some updates. The Stock sump setup of LS400 vvti: Stock oil cooler and filter mount: Old Soarer mid-sump setup and oil filter mount installed to fit Supra: Very few things left to do, but Im still waiting for the lightened flywheel and Stage 2 Clutch to come Edited August 5, 2014 by msmile (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msmile Posted August 16, 2014 Author Share Posted August 16, 2014 (edited) Ok, so next thing to do is take 2JZ out of the car. When its out, theres few small mods to make at the engine bay to fit the v8. As it has dual exhaust, one on each side of the engine, we need to relocate clutch line and fuel filter to make enough room for exhaust pipes and avoid high temps by the fuel lines. The fuel filter is now relocated and heat/fire isolated. Clutch line is removed and will be connected from the other side of the engine bay. Im also using heat wrap on my exhaust manifolds to reduce temperatures under the hood. Bit of cleaning My custom flywheel has finally arrived after being lightened and balanced. As the V8 engine block is shorter than inline-6, not to modify the engine mounts my custom bellhousing and flywheel are made wider, so the gearbox mounts would sit as normal. I have to use my old 1UZ auto-flywheel as a starter wheel tho.. The clutch and pressure plate Im using are from Landcruiser Diesel so should normally cope with 450+ Nm of torque. After some mods I've done, it is now Stage 2 or 3, and should easily deal with 700+ Nm. I dont actually need that much, as the w58 gearbox wont deal with 500+ Nm, but better grip is always good Here you can see the difference in size between stock and custom W58 bellhousings Getting back to wiring now, planning to put the engine in today or tomo. Cant wait for it, will share some pics Edited August 16, 2014 by msmile (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxluc Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 Nice project. Subscribed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delboy52 Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Great to see your project coming along Minde. Looking forward to your updates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msmile Posted August 18, 2014 Author Share Posted August 18, 2014 (edited) Thank You guys! Ready to go: Going: In! Completely forgot to swap LS400 engine mounts to Soarer v8 mounts.... Edited October 9, 2014 by msmile (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spider2123 Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 I've heard the vvti lump is far more responsive than the old 1uzfe. + with your Manuel it's gonna be fun to drive. Subscribed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natony Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Great project, i always wanted to do the same but it was the wiring that bothered me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Bieber Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Sorry for the off topic, but if you need a buyer for your old na lump i would be very interested! Keep up the good work, looks like a great project! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 It would be helpful to others if you could keep track of which wires you end up splicing on each loom, as I can see this being a popular conversion in future! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msmile Posted August 18, 2014 Author Share Posted August 18, 2014 (edited) Wiring was the biggest challenge for me, but now its nearly sorted (thanks for some help of course ). I had never looked at the wiring diagram in my life and it seemed like japanese language at first, but now I can read them like I read a book if anyone decides to go for this project - get someone who had already done one, otherwise you will spend weeks and months reading through the forums.. Edited August 18, 2014 by msmile (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Someone would make a lot of money if they offered a conversion service to put these engines in Mazda RX8s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msmile Posted August 18, 2014 Author Share Posted August 18, 2014 If anyone has spare set of Soarer v8 engine mounts, i will gladly buy them, otherwise wont make it to Bluewater meet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natony Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 If anyone has spare set of Soarer v8 engine mounts, i will gladly buy them, otherwise wont make it to Bluewater meet You could always try this place http://www.smiffiessoarersanctuary.co.uk/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msmile Posted August 18, 2014 Author Share Posted August 18, 2014 You could always try this place http://www.smiffiessoarersanctuary.co.uk/index.html Yeah, this is a good place, but they couldnt help me unfortunately... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delboy52 Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 You don't fancy new mounts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodalmighty Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Someone would make a lot of money if they offered a conversion service to put these engines in Mazda RX8s. Will be filling that gap with LS engines very shortly ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumpbike Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 My friends 4x4 garage put a 1UZ in a land cruiser but made it manual, think they just used the land cruiser flywheel and clutch with the 1uz auto bell housing and just modded it to take a clutch fork and slave. I'll double check but could be as easier solution as the cruiser boxes tend to be the same series as car ones as I know some models of land cruiser can have the R154 straight swapped in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msmile Posted August 19, 2014 Author Share Posted August 19, 2014 You don't fancy new mounts? They are £242 from the dealer and takes 10 working days to deliver!!! Bought new genuine set from Aussies for £160 and 3-5 working days delivery lol! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delboy52 Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Nice find mate. Was that from the 1UZ Facebook group, forum, or website? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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