Fleemon Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 Hi guys, Not really sure where to post this... But someone went and viewed a red supra Rz and said it's in bad condition. Just wondering what's wrong with it? I can't find the thread again It's this one on autotrader http://www.autotrader.co.uk/used-cars/toyota/supra/used-toyota-supra-3-0-turbo-3dr-burgess-hill-fpa-201407085636126 Just to save me time and going to view it.. Any help would be great! Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 Just from the pictures it looks a dog. Headlights yellow Wheels Kerb'd Paintwork dull Interior dirty and stained Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATB Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 What JamieP posted above. + there is a lot of chips in the paint on the hood and front bumper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mk4Gaz Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 It doesn't look awful, certainly not as bad as some I have seen! A bit of tlc will give it a new lease of life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie_b Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 I don't think it looks that bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havard Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 I don't think it looks that bad. Seen worse at meets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 (edited) Kick a few hundred off the asking price which will get it properly cleaned, wheels refurbed and a good mop and polish. Headlights are an easy fix with some cutting paste. I'd be more interested in how it drives and its mechanics than the cosmetic issues which are obvious unlike worn suspension bushes etc The cosmetic fixes are easy and not expensive compared to replacing wishbones, heater matrix or brake calipers Edited August 2, 2014 by Dnk (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havard Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 Kick a few hundred off the asking price which will get it properly cleaned, wheels refurbed and a good mop and polish. Headlights are an easy fix with some cutting paste. I'd be more interested in how it drives and its mechanics than the cosmetic issues which are obvious unlike worn suspension bushes etc The cosmetic fixes are easy and not expensive compared to replacing wishbones, heater matrix or brake calipers The guy who viewed it did say it was a turd that will take one hell of a polishing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 The guy who viewed it did say it was a turd that will take one hell of a polishing. I'd have to see it in the flesh myself but if its only dull and a few chips it shouldn't be too hard to restore, a mate at my local bodyshop could make it look massively better and would cost me £100 for him to go over it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masterfett Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 The guy who viewed it did say it was a turd that will take one hell of a polishing. i sometimes think people forget these cars are fairly old now, granted i wouldn't be paying the asking price for this.. but cant really expect not to have age related marks. IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abz Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 Ask Dunk says my concerns would be if it is mechanically sounds, cosmetics is cheap. Drop it to Stonkin for £350 he will bring it back to life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattP Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 I do recall a person posting about this car not long ago and there were more pressing issues than shabby paintwork... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 I do recall a person posting about this car not long ago and there were more pressing issues than shabby paintwork... Got a link ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abtin90 Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 Got a link ? It's mentioned in this thread Dnk http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?t=311041 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 It's mentioned in this thread Dnk http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?t=311041 Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOGIE Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 Id say its wirth a look 99% of supras have got a few flaws many are hidden, its all down to the sellers honesty and price negotiations Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 Agree with what's being said about it being relatively cheap to sort cosmetics and to expect age related marks, but with older cars you want to be looking out for something that's been well looked after regardless of expense - if someone cant be arsed keeping it presentable looking, or making a bit of an effort when advertising it, then who knows what else they weren't arsed doing that should have been done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleemon Posted August 2, 2014 Author Share Posted August 2, 2014 It's mentioned in this thread Dnk http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?t=311041 That's what I was after! Top lad! Cheers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abtin90 Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 That's what I was after! Top lad! Cheers! No worries mate, good luck with your search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooter Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 Agree with what's being said about it being relatively cheap to sort cosmetics and to expect age related marks, but with older cars you want to be looking out for something that's been well looked after regardless of expense - if someone cant be arsed keeping it presentable looking, or making a bit of an effort when advertising it, then who knows what else they weren't arsed doing that should have been done. Agreed but when the body work over the years goes a bit off and you are using it regularly, there will always be a (long) time period when the inevitable respray it needs gets put back and back. It's a make or break keep or sell point for many and probably this seller, doesn't mean it's not necessarily been looked after mechanically (but I agree some warning signs are there!). The red one was/is cosmetically tatty, but it wasn't on MRX's colour wish list, so half way to not having it and was so bad in his eyes he didn't even drive it. So tatty and he didn't want red so it's dismissed - fine. He's now bought a Gunmetal one (was on his list of colours) which is undoubtably less tatty bodywork wise, but has an additional coolant pipe I don't think i've ever seen on another car (not saying it will cause any issues but it's out of the ordinary!) and suspected dodgy engine mounts (a known facelift problem). Basically at this age they are all a gamble! The red one could, after looking at the receipts they say they have, be mechanically well looked after and have no engine/turbo issues and drive nice and tight - it may have been at stock boost all it's life, it's tatty j-spec brakes could be indicative of neglect but on the flip side what hard user of a manual Supra puts up with J-specs or if they do would notice poor ones. ie perhaps it's more evidence it's had an easy life. The Gunmetal has a few teething problems to sort already some non standard bits that raise an eyebrow even if they don't turn out to be a problem. Discs on it don't look that crash hot either but presumably over looked as the overall package was much better etc. Saying that the Red one could have been abused, with the jspecs's in the garage for last 5 years and them and the tatty wheels only put on recently to sell. The cat's put back on to mask weeping turbo oil seals and on a test drive the handling might be all over the place! On the face of it the Gunmetal wins hands down in the long run who knows.......it's only one persons opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooter Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 BTW none of this was meant as any sort of pop at MRX at all, I wish him many happy trips in his new TT6 and hope it treats him well as I do the eventual owner of the red one! frankly I can't believe the price the manuals still command but IMO if you want a really nice one the extra £2-3K to get it is well worth it...if you can find one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattP Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 (edited) Paint on pretty much every panel was faded, scratched and problems with lacquer peeling. Skirts were cracked, spilt and chunks taken out of them. Wheels were $#@!ed and tyres barely legal. All disks and pads would need replacing due to scoring and uneven wear. Didn't even bother going for a test drive. To be honest if that's the state of a 10k tt6 I may rethink my plan of another supe.... It was really demoralising! Thats more or less the damning comments part I read Edited August 2, 2014 by MattP (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masterfett Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 hmm again i point out, not everyone will have nurtured there car as if its a baby.. myself i bought a TT for sub £1k i have spent over £7k getting in back to decent running conditon. the way i saw it, i could buy a TT for 4 / 5 k but despite what a seller says has been done to the car, i personally would prefer to fork over the cash and know it HAS been done and done right, besides the point. in this case i dont really see a problem aside from the price the deluded owner is asking, if you like this particular example.. wait a month or two .. he will drop his price, if he doesn't then someone who has alot of money to play with has bought it and im sure it will end up a shining example of a forum owned car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supraGZaerotop Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 i reckon id have that tiptop in a day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havard Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 hmm again i point out, not everyone will have nurtured there car as if its a baby.. myself i bought a TT for sub £1k i have spent over £7k getting in back to decent running conditon. the way i saw it, i could buy a TT for 4 / 5 k but despite what a seller says has been done to the car, i personally would prefer to fork over the cash and know it HAS been done and done right, besides the point. in this case i dont really see a problem aside from the price the deluded owner is asking, if you like this particular example.. wait a month or two .. he will drop his price, if he doesn't then someone who has alot of money to play with has bought it and im sure it will end up a shining example of a forum owned car. Fair post. When I was shopping for my NA I saw a lot of cars in poor condition and that was nearly 8 years ago. I bet the situation hasn't improved as more people can afford to buy these cars but not keep them pristine and fix every fault or worn item. I was lucky as a fresh import with low miles has needed just routine servicing and a couple of mods to tide me over in 4 years. H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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