basch32 Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 Hi guys and gals, I am looking to get my car completely remapped with an emission based map (failed nct in Ireland ha) and a power map for 95. Was wondering if you have any recommendations, I live in Ireland and would be willing to travel to the UK if that was the best option. Btw the Vipec ecu is locked so I would need to reset it to be able to get a emission based map thus why I want the full setup THanks Baz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
np89 Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 I'm not sure you quite understand how mapping works...... Anyway, TDP is probably your closest option, or Richard Bradley in Bradley Motorworks or Gavin in GSport cars for Link based ECUs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basch32 Posted August 2, 2014 Author Share Posted August 2, 2014 I'm not sure you quite understand how mapping works...... Anyway, TDP is probably your closest option, or Richard Bradley in Bradley Motorworks or Gavin in GSport cars for Link based ECUs Why dont I understand how mapping works? Maybe I was unclear in my reasoning but I believe I do, please feel free to tell me where I have gone wrong. Any experience with any of the ones mentioned? Thanks, Baz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
np89 Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 You don't base maps on emissions or power at all, however, it is possible to have a map correctly done to deliver both power and the correct emissions. Although if your emissions are bad that usually means that something is wrong with your engine, a healthy engine should pass an emissions test with no help. Anyway, I know NCT is different from UK MOT with the emissions based on Hydrocarbons etc as opposed to Co like it is in the UK/NI. TDP are apparently very good, Robbie maps the SATS Cosworth drift car and I know Mark Luney personally and he speaks very highly of him. Richard Bradley is also very good, however, if its not a drift car he's not really interested in mapping it. Gavin at GSport is currently doing my standalone big single UK car and while he isn't finished, seems very good so far Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basch32 Posted August 2, 2014 Author Share Posted August 2, 2014 I believe a large single turbo isnt going to pass emissions for a stock twin turbo most of the time due to fueling etc. I could be wrong but I know of a number of people that have a map for emmissions and then there normal 95 octane map for power for instance. The irish nct does it for both lambda, CO and HPC, the engine is 100% healthy (could be cat i supppose but dont think so). Currently the issue is that she seems to be runnign richie rich on low idle test so not much can be done for that other than remap?? Like I said the engine ahs been checked before buying the car and is 100% (leak down test etc. etc.) Thanks fro teh info on the mappers appreciate it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
np89 Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 I believe a large single turbo isnt going to pass emissions for a stock twin turbo most of the time due to fueling etc. I could be wrong but I know of a number of people that have a map for emmissions and then there normal 95 octane map for power for instance. The irish nct does it for both lambda, CO and HPC, the engine is 100% healthy (could be cat i supppose but dont think so). Currently the issue is that she seems to be runnign richie rich on low idle test so not much can be done for that other than remap?? Like I said the engine ahs been checked before buying the car and is 100% (leak down test etc. etc.) Thanks fro teh info on the mappers appreciate it. You are mapping a car that still has the cats in?? Thats a bit risky in itself running above standard boost with a cat in, well certainly the first cat in, the heat would be insane!! If thats the case a duffed cat could be your issue. The idle map shouldnt really be any different from standard single or twin turbo, unless you've changed your injectors because the engine isnt under any load so there shouldnt really be any need to alter the idle map. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basch32 Posted August 2, 2014 Author Share Posted August 2, 2014 Its only got the one cat, the one just down from the turbo was removed. How does any car pass emissions if you ahve to remove both cats in a single turbo car? Never heard this before... The car is running large injectors 1000cc ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
np89 Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 Thats what I mean, a healthy engine should pass an emissions test without a cat at all, sure all cars in the supra's date range are supposed to be subject to the non cat test anyway so they really shouldnt need them. The only reason Toyota put them there was to make emissions super low, but really they should still be well below the limits without them. Having 1000cc injectors I can understand is a slightly different story, in that case you would just get a mapper to elan it right off on idle but not to the extent that your hydrocarbons climb. Really I'd be asking the mapper to have an exhaust gas analyser on the car when he is doing the idle map to be sure it is right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basch32 Posted August 2, 2014 Author Share Posted August 2, 2014 Grea thanks for teh information, will be bringing it to the mechanic next week just wanted to check on here for a good mapper in Ireland/UK to work on the ViPec if needed In ireland it is on age so anything above a 94 has different emmisions requriemtns and will NOT pass without at least one cat no matter how good the engine is.Our NCt is prob a bit different to teh MOT in that respect. Thanks again for the feedback Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basch32 Posted August 5, 2014 Author Share Posted August 5, 2014 Just wondering if anyone has heard of Powermax engineering in northern ireland , read a few comments on forums and seem to be decent.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
np89 Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 They wont map anything they haven't buiilt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 It's sometimes cheaper and easier for your sanity to fit an ecu that is more popular and supported by a good mapper in your own locale. There's no reason at all a single turbo with a cat shouldn't pass most emission tests if mapped properly, UNLESS it has a really wild cam(s) with lots of duration and overlap. Will Ryan map Link ecu's? Maybe TDI will, their mapper, Sam, is possibly familiar with the software. I doubt Dave Rowe will look at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basch32 Posted August 5, 2014 Author Share Posted August 5, 2014 It's sometimes cheaper and easier for your sanity to fit an ecu that is more popular and supported by a good mapper in your own locale. There's no reason at all a single turbo with a cat shouldn't pass most emission tests if mapped properly, UNLESS it has a really wild cam(s) with lots of duration and overlap. Will Ryan map Link ecu's? Maybe TDI will, their mapper, Sam, is possibly familiar with the software. I doubt Dave Rowe will look at it. Ah well in Republic of Ireland we don't have a lot of good mappers from what I have been told but happy to be proven wrong, so ecu type isn't the biggest problem ha OK but are they good at what they do np89? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
np89 Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Ive never had them map anything for me but I know they deal soley with Link. Richard Bradley uses them religiously for all his machine work and used to get them to map for him before he did it himself so id say they are along the same lines as Richard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodalmighty Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 I've done a few ViPec 88's (or Link Extreme if you will). They are quite straight forward and any decent mapper would get his head around it reasonably quickly. I know Ryan G has done Link based stuff so Vipec would be no challenge to him even with the new GUI orientated stuff. The fact it's locked will mean a complete bare bones remap unless your mapper has some base maps. Link/Vipec have good base maps for various cars and setups that come with the software so you might get lucky that there is something there that speeds up this process. I had to do this on a R32 GTR and it took me about 5 mins to wipe off the old map and get something up and running ready using the GTR map link provided before going for a proper mapping session. Lyndon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poshmalc Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Peter Betts at Thor is the man to speak to about Link ECUs, pretty sure he wrote most of the software for them too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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