Steve W Posted March 19, 2003 Share Posted March 19, 2003 FOR YOUR INTEREST...... The emission test on my TT BEFORE I replaced the cat(s):- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbeh Posted March 19, 2003 Share Posted March 19, 2003 I hope you didnt run that from cold startup, its best to do the MOT when the cats are warm (after a run). How much is that gonna cost ya? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve W Posted March 19, 2003 Author Share Posted March 19, 2003 Sorry Bobbbbb... didn't make that clear enough..... before I put the cats BACK IN ! ! ie. that's the result with the cats OUT ! ie. it's fairly good, but, won't go through with NO cats in. [ I obviously put one cat back and redid the test.....ahhhmmmm:sly: I obiously(!) replaced the proper front plate and reconnected the rear fog too ! ! ! ........"brawlshrit" ] YES, you're dead right, a fair run is best to HOT the cat(s) up prior a "cat" test. (although at our place, he DOES give it time to hot-up if the first test shows it's definitely improving with time = he's not a bas*ard !) FatS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbeh Posted March 19, 2003 Share Posted March 19, 2003 Oooh right Not bad at all then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesG Posted March 19, 2003 Share Posted March 19, 2003 Steve, is your Supra post 1995 then? Mine got similar CO figures to yours on the emissions test but passed fine without cats as it's a 1994 model. James. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Posted March 20, 2003 Share Posted March 20, 2003 Anyone know what a 1994 J-Specs CO level should be for a pass? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesG Posted March 20, 2003 Share Posted March 20, 2003 Is it about 2.5%? Whatever it is, you'd have to have a very ill car in order for it to fail. James. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Posted March 20, 2003 Share Posted March 20, 2003 Originally posted by JamesG Steve, is your Supra post 1995 then? Mine got similar CO figures to yours on the emissions test but passed fine without cats as it's a 1994 model. James. The emissions regulations for cat equipped cars changed in August 1992...! Nathan TDI PLC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesG Posted March 20, 2003 Share Posted March 20, 2003 Originally posted by Nathan The emissions regulations for cat equipped cars changed in August 1992...! Nathan TDI PLC That's right, but vehicles built before 1995 that are not on the emissions database (such as the J-spec Supra) only have to undergo the non-cat test. James. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Kindell Posted March 20, 2003 Share Posted March 20, 2003 They are listed on the MOT data base as JZA80-1jz gte and they do need testing i should know i'm a current MOT tester Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Martin F Posted March 20, 2003 Share Posted March 20, 2003 Originally posted by Mark Kindell They are listed on the MOT data base as JZA80-1jz gte and they do need testing i should know i'm a current MOT tester I think you mean 2JZ-GTE Mark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supra_Al Posted March 20, 2003 Share Posted March 20, 2003 I checked with an MOT friend, who says, if an import (mine is) and the cats are removed,then it will have a non cat test.Al. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Kindell Posted March 20, 2003 Share Posted March 20, 2003 Opps sorry did mean 2JZ-GTE hehe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted March 20, 2003 Share Posted March 20, 2003 The chassis code for the E-JZA80-XXXXXX is NOT in the system. So how can they find the engine code?? They arn't allowed to use the "best fit" that's like saying a BNR32 is the same as a BNR34 (Skyline). Every M.O.T. I've had they've agreed that my 1993 car does not need to take a cat based test. But by 1995 EVERY new car in the world had to have cats/pass cat test so after this point the blanket rule applies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Kindell Posted March 20, 2003 Share Posted March 20, 2003 It is a JZA-80 2jz GTE ??? yep in that case it is in the data base thats all my data base asks for and thats all i have to look for if you dont belive me i've MOT'd a few cars from this bbs and i make a point of showing them the entrys on the co machine and they have all agreed that it would need a test ! It dont matter if it a import or not if its in the book it needs emission testing and my Bear100 gas analyser lists the JZA-80 2jz GTE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Martin F Posted March 20, 2003 Share Posted March 20, 2003 My local garage agrees with Marks findings on this one. If they can identify the engine type and that exists on their database (books in my garages case) then they must test to the spec in the database. However if they can't identify the engine well........................ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Kindell Posted March 20, 2003 Share Posted March 20, 2003 By the way all the Supras i've tested allways seem to pass so..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted March 20, 2003 Share Posted March 20, 2003 Originally posted by Mark Kindell It is a JZA-80 2jz GTE ??? yep in that case it is in the data base thats all my data base asks for and thats all i have to look for if you dont belive me i've MOT'd a few cars from this bbs and i make a point of showing them the entrys on the co machine and they have all agreed that it would need a test ! It dont matter if it a import or not if its in the book it needs emission testing and my Bear100 gas analyser lists the JZA-80 2jz GTE Which is why the "E-" bit is so important.... E = built for Japan...but that is then the start of the chassis code. The Uk spec cars don't have the "E" which means its a different chassis code... Well that's what I will argue if its ever challenged Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Posted March 21, 2003 Share Posted March 21, 2003 Interesting stuff. I went for an MOT and failed the emissions test, took the car to Toyota and passed the emissions test same day. Mines a 1994 J-spec de-cat. By that I can only assume they input the correct code as stated above, or the equipment was faulty . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonB Posted March 21, 2003 Share Posted March 21, 2003 All this confusion with chassis numbers probably comes about because there is a separate model number, engine number and frame number. The model number is the E-JZA80-* one where E is for Japanese. The engine number is 2JZ-GTE 2997 on all TTs (GT on NAs) and the frame number begins JZA80-*. See www.mkiv.co.nz. So which do they look up ? Model, engine or frame number ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Kindell Posted March 21, 2003 Share Posted March 21, 2003 I've checked my books and I've rung the ministry and this is the way I read it and I was backed up by the guy from the ministry (for what that's worth) the book lists a Toyota Supra Model JZA-80 engine code 2jz-gte testable from vin number 00000001 when I put it to him that it was a E-JZA-80 he replied is it a JZA-80 i said yes but it was built in Japan hence the E prefix he said it make no difference where it was made if it a JZA-80 with a 2jz-gte engine in it it needs testing ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesG Posted March 21, 2003 Share Posted March 21, 2003 I suppose that's fair enough. But, for all your average mechanic knows, the E-JZA80 could be a totally different model to a JZA-80, and might not be designed to pass the full cat test. James. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supra Pilot Posted March 21, 2003 Share Posted March 21, 2003 Originally posted by Mark Kindell I've checked my books and I've rung the ministry and this is the way I read it and I was backed up by the guy from the ministry (for what that's worth) the book lists a Toyota Supra Model JZA-80 engine code 2jz-gte testable from vin number 00000001 when I put it to him that it was a E-JZA-80 he replied is it a JZA-80 i said yes but it was built in Japan hence the E prefix he said it make no difference where it was made if it a JZA-80 with a 2jz-gte engine in it it needs testing ? Thanks for alerting the powers that be, do hope they send out a circular informing all testing stations so we can all pay EXTRA to have our cats put back in come M.O.T. time...... Good thread here, but I think it may have gone a step too far! We all know the rules and try to cheat sometimes, but only because it saves frigging about changing back stuff on the cars and also save's us some dosh from doing this..... Also I am sure everyone has their own 'friendly' M.O.T. station they can take their cars and not get this worry about passing or not! "now where the fvcks my coat!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve W Posted March 21, 2003 Author Share Posted March 21, 2003 It is the ENGINE CODE ie. Engine TYPE that is checked against the listing in the Gas Analyser database. I WORK with the bloke who's testing mine ! ! Believe me, he'd put it straight through if he could ! HE COULDN'T...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supra Pilot Posted March 21, 2003 Share Posted March 21, 2003 Sack him then........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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