Josh Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Care to elaborate as to why you say they're terrible ? Which Pilot sports do you have ? the PS2 has very good reviews I'm not sure, but I can check later which they are. The wet grip is terrible compared to the Goodyear Eagle F1s on the stock wheels (could be to do with less sidewall). Once, they span as the second turbo came on in 4th gear, which was not fun at all. The dry grip is also bad and they can spin in 3rd in the dryest conditions. There doesn't seem to be any difference between them being cold or warm either. I did buy them as part worns with 4mm tread on, and I've read that grip can be compromised when they've worn down a bit, but I was shocked at the difference between these and the Eagle F1s which take a lot to spin in the dry and don't spin at all in second in the wet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny g Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 I've got Michelin Pilot Super Sports on the GTR, great tyre in the dry, even better for the wet. You'd not be disappointed with them other than the price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan294 Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Care to elaborate as to why you say they're terrible ? Which Pilot sports do you have ? the PS2 has very good reviews I had PS2's on the Mrs's A4 TDi, couldn't fault them really, It was only 165BHP and 285lbs/ft though compared to a TT Supra. Still, they wore well and offered decent grip. Pretty sure I had PS1's on the Supra at some point too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trebor69 Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 (edited) I had some Vreds once...... Never again, lasted 6 months, the ones I had wore at a ridiculous pace. They were on the front of an astra gte and covered around 800 miles per week..... Vowed I would never use them again. Edited April 24, 2014 by trebor69 (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 I had some Vreds once...... Never again, lasted 6 months, the ones I had wore at a ridiculous pace. They were on the front of an astra gte and covered around 800 miles per week..... Vowed I would never use them again. That'a nearly 20,000 miles. Depending on how hard you drove it and the wheel alignment, that doesn't seem too bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 I had some Vreds once...... Never again, lasted 6 months, the ones I had wore at a ridiculous pace. They were on the front of an astra gte and covered around 800 miles per week..... Vowed I would never use them again. That seems quite good to me considering. I used to budget for new rubber every 3,000 miles in my Supra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trebor69 Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 You may be correct, that is quite a lot of miles thinking about it, but I always bought part worns after that and they ALWAYS lasted longer, I just assumed that the Vreds were made from very soft rubber. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trebor69 Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 That seems quite good to me considering. I used to budget for new rubber every 3,000 miles in my Supra Every 3k miles?????? Wow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Every 3k miles :-o Bear in mind I'm quite 'hard' on my tyres. Especially the rears! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little num Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Absolutely this...in my experience at stock levels of power dry grip is not really an issue with even more budget tyres, but poor wet grip can ruin the whole standard Supra owning experience. I've looked at wear rate in the past for tyres for other cars but can honestly say I've never considered a mpg rating gain/deficit...I'd like to see the stats for the best mpg vs the worst it can't be in the 5mpg range can it? even if it is with a Supra its the ideal place to compromise if the wet grip is excellent which in my opinion it is with the sessanta's. What you boys on about lol, what he really wants is a set of these front and back like me - 285/30/18 rears - 255/35/18 fronts not used them in wet conditions yet lol. Federal FZ201 and I must say how the hell they got these road legal my mind boggles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham1984 Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Hankook ventus v12's are a decent alternative with good wet handling too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest suprageek Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Dunlop sport maxx tyres can't fault them and good in the wet too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayfun.tugra Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Have a look at Avon zz3's, i had them on the front of my supra and was impressed with them in the wet and dry Sensibly priced too I have a set of zz3s all round. Used them for almost 4k miles and still about 7mm of tread left. Really impressed with cornering wet grip, and 35mpg is possible (tt auto bpu) so I dont know what that poor fuel rating is on about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewOW Posted April 25, 2014 Author Share Posted April 25, 2014 Now, this is throwing something else into the pot. What about Kumho tyres? They have excellent ratings online, but are they serious ditch finders?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraLEDrears Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 I have used Kuhmo tyres, Continental Sport contact 2/3, Bridgestone Potenzas, Pirelli P Zeros and Michelin Pilot Sports. My tyres of choice are the potenzas. They wear quite fast but my rear wheels are cambered to stupid levels and the inside shoulder wears off first. I know I need the Geometry doing . The Continentals would be my second choice. The Michelin pilot sports weren't too bad if you got them cheap and I liked the Pirellis although they wore stupidly fast but did not grip better than the potenzas. The kuhmo would only go on if it had to as it's a very hard tyre and wears the slowest but doesn't make me very confident going fast around corners and slippy in the rain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewOW Posted May 19, 2014 Author Share Posted May 19, 2014 I've ordered a set of Vredestein Sessanta tyres today. Another step closer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulj1 Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 Vredestein Ultrac Sessanta Im on my 3rd set now as only Pzero could match them for every day use and they where a lot more expensive and very low stock too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewOW Posted May 23, 2014 Author Share Posted May 23, 2014 I've just received the set of Vredestein Sessantas, and they are looking very pretty. Just need to get them on the car now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 I've just received the set of Vredestein Sessantas, and they are looking very pretty. Just need to get them on the car now! https://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=186114&d=1400846932 Where did you order them from in the end? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havard Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 Where did you order them from in the end? This an how much were they? I need to replace my rears in the next few weeks as they are shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewOW Posted May 23, 2014 Author Share Posted May 23, 2014 I bought the full set from http://www.tyreleader.co.uk for £475 delivered. A bloomin' bargain, I think! Fronts at £105.49 each Rears at £131.99 each Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 I bought the full set from http://www.tyreleader.co.uk for £475 delivered. A bloomin' bargain, I think! Fronts at £105.49 each Rears at £131.99 each Michelin Pilot Sport PS2 tyres for £48 on there..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewOW Posted May 23, 2014 Author Share Posted May 23, 2014 Blimey, there are some real bargains on there at the moment. Falkens and Michelins for under £50 each! Those prices must be wrong?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 must be a error, 275x30x20 are showing as 48quid also... wonder if they'd honor it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 must be a error, 275x30x20 are showing as 48quid also... wonder if they'd honor it If you can prove they've advertised them at that price, they have to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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