T14PPA Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Ive just received my bee r rev limiter. I know many people dont like it but thats your opinion. I bought it mainly for the launch but aswell as a little noise. Has anyone fitted theirs? Anyone got a step by step on how to do it? As i cant find anything on supras. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy442 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Just throw it in the bin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T14PPA Posted February 26, 2014 Author Share Posted February 26, 2014 Just throw it in the bin. Why mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitesupra95 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 They sound awsome, had one on my Nissan. There not usually that hard to fit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitesupra95 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Says for jza70 but it will be the same http://www.supramania.com/forums/showthread.php?74363-Bee*R-rev-limiter-Installation-Guide-(JZA70-specific) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc_p Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Say goodbye to the turbos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T14PPA Posted February 26, 2014 Author Share Posted February 26, 2014 Says for jza70 but it will be the same http://www.supramania.com/forums/showthread.php?74363-Bee*R-rev-limiter-Installation-Guide-(JZA70-specific) Thanks mate. Is the ecu plug the same as the 2jz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T14PPA Posted February 26, 2014 Author Share Posted February 26, 2014 Say goodbye to the turbos Does it actully harm the turbo? Im not making the gain high plus im not going to be popping ass the time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy442 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Why mate According to your garage you have an auto, so its totally pointless on that front because you can just brake boost for a launch (if your garage is up to date) You just want it to show off in car parks or whatever, am I right? And re turbos, it won't do them any good, exploding unburnt fuel in a hot manifold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitesupra95 Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 No it won't harm your turbos, exhaust manifolds reach an excess of 700degrees when on boost anyway. The explosion in the exhaust will still spin the turbos in the same direction so it's not like there quickly forced the other direction. Swampy if that's what he wants to do why question it, just let him do it instead of trying to be-little him. Regards mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T14PPA Posted February 27, 2014 Author Share Posted February 27, 2014 No it won't harm your turbos, exhaust manifolds reach an excess of 700degrees when on boost anyway. The explosion in the exhaust will still spin the turbos in the same direction so it's not like there quickly forced the other direction. Swampy if that's what he wants to do why question it, just let him do it instead of trying to be-little him. Regards mark Cheers mark. Thats what i wanted to hear loool - - - Updated - - - No it won't harm your turbos, exhaust manifolds reach an excess of 700degrees when on boost anyway. The explosion in the exhaust will still spin the turbos in the same direction so it's not like there quickly forced the other direction. Swampy if that's what he wants to do why question it, just let him do it instead of trying to be-little him. Regards mark Cheers mark. Thats what i wanted to hear loool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitesupra95 Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 The only thing you have to watch for is manifold gaskets lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayfun.tugra Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 No it won't harm your turbos, exhaust manifolds reach an excess of 700degrees when on boost anyway. The explosion in the exhaust will still spin the turbos in the same direction so it's not like there quickly forced the other direction. Swampy if that's what he wants to do why question it, just let him do it instead of trying to be-little him. Regards mark J spec - Ceramic turbo - battered harder than a drunks wife Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitesupra95 Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 It's more the heat that kills them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chazuk Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Just throw it in the bin. Best advice , the owner of driftworks stopped selling them as he knew of at least 4 engines it killed search about it ,also my mate killed his RB with a bee r Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitesupra95 Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 If you search about it you'll find people have run years with them too though. I think it's banging the engine on limiters while drifting that kills them but regardless if its bee-r or standard limiters the same will happen, drifting is really hard on engines. I'm currently on my 3rd engine on my Nissan without using bee-r's just purely because I'm limiter happy while drifting. When you rev the car stationery there is no load or boost on the engine, I'd imagine the biggest killer will be fuel mixture on boost while hitting the limiter for long periods will kill an engine. As long as you don't take the piss with the bee-r it will be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T14PPA Posted February 27, 2014 Author Share Posted February 27, 2014 With everything if you abuse it it will break thats how i see it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc_p Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 With everything if you abuse it it will break thats how i see it Yup, and Bee-R's seriously abuse both the engine and turbos, you do know it's forcing the car to det? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitesupra95 Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Yup, and Bee-R's seriously abuse both the engine and turbos, you do know it's forcing the car to det? How do you figure that out, fuel cut would be more prone to det as for example if your running 1.4bar and hit the limiter your essentially taking fuel from the mixture making it lean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitesupra95 Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 If you notice the instructions say to put it in the ignition feedback wire which essentially cuts fuel too when the ecu doesn't get a spark signal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee P Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 How do you figure that out, fuel cut would be more prone to det as for example if your running 1.4bar and hit the limiter your essentially taking fuel from the mixture making it lean. No because its a complete cut, running lean its still firing just very hot. If that was the case then racelogic traction control would cause det which it doesn't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitesupra95 Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 So your on full boost and all of a sudden your fuel is cut, and your saying it won't go lean?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee P Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 So your on full boost and all of a sudden your fuel is cut, and your saying it won't go lean?? It won't cause det no as its cutting a whole injector cycle To get det from running lean it needs to still be firing but not enough fuel to keep it cool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitesupra95 Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 this is from race logic site, they cut one injector at a time and cycle them to make sure there is no damage to one given cyclinder. this proves that banging the limiter with fuel cut is bad. it is also proven that fuel cut is not instant, on datalogs on various cars showing that the revs still went over there limit. however spark cut is instant and there is always fuel there to keep things cool. Cutting a single injector pulse The idea of cutting fuel to an engine sets alarm bells ringing in engine builders, as they all know that running a lean combustion mode will elevate in-cylinder temperatures very rapidly. The denser the air/fuel charge, the more heat the lean burn can generate. Therefore it is vital that a fuel cut system will not cause a lean burn. Racelogic Traction Control prevents lean burn by removing 100% of the pulsed fuel delivery – essentially the affected cylinder takes a gulp of fresh air; the in-cylinder temperature remains virtually unaffected. Prolonged fuel cut on one particular cylinder would cause scavenging of the petrol lining the inlet tracts, and when the next full fuel pulse arrived, it would be partially reduced in quantity by the re-wetting of these tracts. RL Traction Control rotates cylinder cutting to prevent this situation from occurring Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee P Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Well I was referring to the way the racelogic system worked anyway so thanks for the info. this is from race logic site, they cut one injector at a time and cycle them to make sure there is no damage to one given cyclinder. this proves that banging the limiter with fuel cut is bad. it is also proven that fuel cut is not instant, on datalogs on various cars showing that the revs still went over there limit. however spark cut is instant and there is always fuel there to keep things cool. Cutting a single injector pulse The idea of cutting fuel to an engine sets alarm bells ringing in engine builders, as they all know that running a lean combustion mode will elevate in-cylinder temperatures very rapidly. The denser the air/fuel charge, the more heat the lean burn can generate. Therefore it is vital that a fuel cut system will not cause a lean burn. Racelogic Traction Control prevents lean burn by removing 100% of the pulsed fuel delivery – essentially the affected cylinder takes a gulp of fresh air; the in-cylinder temperature remains virtually unaffected. Prolonged fuel cut on one particular cylinder would cause scavenging of the petrol lining the inlet tracts, and when the next full fuel pulse arrived, it would be partially reduced in quantity by the re-wetting of these tracts. RL Traction Control rotates cylinder cutting to prevent this situation from occurring Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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