Batmax Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Hi Today I put some pressure in brakes, and guess what, at some time my supra take lot of time to brake, very concern in my head now, my setup is oem rotors brembo with Brembo Spec Hawk Pad Set for Front/Rear Brakes pads, now I want to go big brakes, don't know what I should choose, if I should put the brakes in the 4 wheels, I don not want spend more than 5000€, help me please, thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 (edited) I assume you have the larger 4 pot brakes? (as per UK spec?) These should be fine on any road going Supra, so I'd probably start with checking all the brake components, and giving the system a good bleed. Standard discs with uprated pads seem to be a good setup, even on medium power single turbo Supras. As for brake kit, I would personally only consider something along the lines of Brembo, AP or Alcon. Known quality and excellent customer support. Another benefit with aftermarket brake calipers is a significant reduction in weight, the factory 4 pot calipers weigh a lot! Edited February 10, 2014 by j_jza80 (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batmax Posted February 10, 2014 Author Share Posted February 10, 2014 The big problem I find when I brake Supra, is not feeling he is braking ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Bailey Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 UK brakes all round with Chris Wilson fast road pads should be fit for the job. You shouldn't really need big brake kits unless you do hardcore track racing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 The stock brake system works well, but it does not give a lot of feedback. Also, it won't feel as if it's stopping as urgently as modern cars, as the brakes aren't 'over servo'd', which seems to be the norm now. I had the Brembo f40 setup on my single, and combined with good hoses a braced servo, etc, gave a much improved interaction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batmax Posted February 10, 2014 Author Share Posted February 10, 2014 The stock brake system works well, but it does not give a lot of feedback. Also, it won't feel as if it's stopping as urgently as modern cars, as the brakes aren't 'over servo'd', which seems to be the norm now. I had the Brembo f40 setup on my single, and combined with good hoses a braced servo, etc, gave a much improved interaction. Exactly, I like the ideia of press brake and has immediately response ! Your brakes are these : Brembo 6-Piston MonoBlock 14.0'' ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Sorry, it was the 4 pot F50 setup, not the F40. You don't want the brakes to be too urgent, a degree of progressive action is ideal, modern brakes tend to be all or nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesy Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 If you want some serious stopping power with no brake fade i would recommend the Alcons - i have them on the Do-Luck and they are the best brakes i've ever owned Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abz Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 What sort of power are you running? The larger brakes are good if they got decent pads too, Chris Wilson (Trader) can provide some. Also as mentioned by others other components like ensuring all the pistons in the calipers are working properly. Good grade of brake fluid, braided hoses, OEM discs. Though if this is not enough then I would suggest you look at other options for brakes. Adam (Justin Bieber on the forum) has Brembo brakes on his setup and it is certainly better than the UK brakes! He did a brake check whilst I was out in his car and it was incredibly good!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 IIRC, DanDan did an excellent brake setup comparison thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abz Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 IIRC, DanDan did an excellent brake setup comparison thread. Good shout Jay, I remember that thread: http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?225007-Big-Brake-Kits-Real-Numbers&highlight=brakes+comparison Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 How old is your brake fluid ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batmax Posted February 10, 2014 Author Share Posted February 10, 2014 Thanks a lot I did use the search but didn't notice these thread, thanks a lot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batmax Posted February 10, 2014 Author Share Posted February 10, 2014 2 Years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 AP Racing, Brembo (who are connected to AP) and Alcon all do or did a conversion kit. Not cheap, but a commercial package that retains correct brake balance and fits as a bolt on mod. Gotcha can be wheel clearance. Safest way to check is fit your wheels on a car with the brake kit you fancy already on it. Measuring demands a great deal of patience and some skill. If you know EXACTLY what you are doing you can build a kit from stuff off the race car `sites, but I stress, you must know EXACTLY what you are about, there's a LOT to this!!! A properly functioning UK caliper and stock disc set up should, with good pads, give excellent bite and stopping power matching normal fast road usage. Repetitive hard stops from 100 MPH plus, with little time for thermal recovery are NOT considered normal road use.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Talk to Lee P, he is just about to break a car that has some serious brakes on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batmax Posted February 10, 2014 Author Share Posted February 10, 2014 Talk to Lee P, he is just about to break a car that has some serious brakes on it. Thanks, Hi Spec Mega Monster Road ? These are very similar than PBrakes, maybe this is an low quality brakes ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 2 Years It needs changing, get some Motul RBF 600/660 and flush it through the whole system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batmax Posted February 10, 2014 Author Share Posted February 10, 2014 It needs changing, get some Motul RBF 600/660 and flush it through the whole system. True, thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Thanks, Hi Spec Mega Monster Road ? These are very similar than PBrakes, maybe this is an low quality brakes ? Brand new Greddy kit iirc, monster looking set of brakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 True, thanks. You can use 20 year old brake fluid, it'll still stop exactly the same as with new race fluid. Only the fluids resistance to boiling due to absorbed water from the atmosphere will have changed, meaning consecutive fast stops may cause the fluid to boil (pedal goes straight down to the floor, *ZERO* braking and very unnerving!). That's not to say regular fluid changes aren't a good idea, just to point out the car will still have brakes that feel exactly the same unless bleeding fixed something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Bieber Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 I'd thoroughly recommend Chris Wilson's fast road pads if you are after a better feel from the brakes, far better than a stock pad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 So would I .... Thanks Justin! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Brand new Greddy kit iirc, monster looking set of brakes. They use an Alcon made caliper IIRC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Brand new Greddy kit iirc, monster looking set of brakes. Not trying to step on the OP's hunt - but I'm keen to see what these are like. I also wonder if the CCWs will clear them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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