theredone Posted February 8, 2014 Share Posted February 8, 2014 Ive just converted my auto na to a w58 manual i have the full conversion loom etc Ive tryed to start the car and the starter motor isnt working I cant see any clips off any where. Ive taken of the starter motor and bench tested and it works fine. Have no clue where to go from here Need help and advise asap Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottC Posted February 8, 2014 Share Posted February 8, 2014 Ive just converted my auto na to a w58 manual i have the full conversion loom etc Ive tryed to start the car and the starter motor isnt working I cant see any clips off any where. Ive taken of the starter motor and bench tested and it works fine. Have no clue where to go from here Need help and advise asap Thanks. What do you mean by full conversion loom? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
safcdixon Posted February 8, 2014 Share Posted February 8, 2014 Doesn't the auto have an inhibitor switch to say if its in park, have you bypassed this? if not that's your problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottC Posted February 8, 2014 Share Posted February 8, 2014 It does, but he mentions full conversion loom so it may have been changed. My guess is it is a partial conversion loom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theredone Posted February 8, 2014 Author Share Posted February 8, 2014 Sorry guys about the conversion loom i ment to say manual loom, and i have now bypassed the switch ready to start in the morning, fingers crossed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theredone Posted February 9, 2014 Author Share Posted February 9, 2014 Today weve had it cranking over but its not firing! Dont kniw if theres another sensor yiu have ti bipass or just what to check ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger NE Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 (edited) Having just fitted a 2JZ in my Mk3, I spent ages sussing out all the wiring before doing the transplant . . . considering how much I could have got wrong, was delighted when it started straight away! You have fitted a Manual Loom, but is it the original Auto ECU? (if so, that could be your problem) For example, the main engine ECU needs to get a signal to know you are starting, so it gives the right signals to the Fuel Pump ECU. Also the EFI Relay needs to get power to operate the injectors etc. Before you try and trace the wiring, the easiest thing to do is connect a multimeter to the Fuel Pump pin on the engine's Check Connector to check there is voltage there when you are cranking - you should see 10 - 12V. Also read the Fault Codes, as that will tell you what is wrong ! (presume you have a copy of the TSRM to look this up?) Edited February 9, 2014 by Roger NE (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DodgyRog Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 (edited) If you do end up needing a Manual ECU I have one here somewhere, just Pm me and we can work out a price Edited February 9, 2014 by DodgyRog (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theredone Posted February 9, 2014 Author Share Posted February 9, 2014 i have a 2jzge auto, i have converted it to manual with manual loom and ecu etc, it cranks but doesn't spark at all. I'm really struggling to find what the problem is and i have spoke to david p and have tried both the manual ecu and auto ecu to start it up and nothing happens if any one can give me a call or message me that would help a lot and maybe get it started again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger NE Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 Well we can't help you without any feed back ! Have you measured the Fuel Pump voltage on the Check Connector like I suggested? And what Fault Codes are you getting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theredone Posted February 9, 2014 Author Share Posted February 9, 2014 Ive not got nothing to check the fault codes mate and just trying to source which relay id for the fuel pump Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theredone Posted February 9, 2014 Author Share Posted February 9, 2014 Does the ecu need coding to the car? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger NE Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 Does the ecu need coding to the car? No it doesn't There's no relay for the Fuel Pump - it's fed by it's own Controller. Do you have a Multimeter to check the voltage like I suggested? And you don't need anything to read the Fault Codes - you just read the flashes on the dash light! I guess you haven't read the TSRM - think there is a link on here to an online version Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theredone Posted February 9, 2014 Author Share Posted February 9, 2014 i have a multimeter yes and i haven't read the voltage yet, but i will be doing tomorrow, and which dash light do you mean as its only the door and seat belt what is illuminating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theredone Posted February 9, 2014 Author Share Posted February 9, 2014 i haven't heard the fuel pump even working nor smelt any fuel, i taken out a spark plug earlier and the was no spark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottC Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 Click the fault codes link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger NE Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 (edited) I see you have started SEVERAL new threads !!! Please just stick to this one, then we will try and help you. Did you measure the FP voltage on the check connector? And have you read your Fault Codes? The instructions how to do it are on the Link that ScottC posted for you Edited February 10, 2014 by Roger NE (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger NE Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 So have you checked those things yet? Waiting for you to report back . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 2JZ GE W58 Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 so the starter wouldnt crank it and suddenly now it does but you get no spark? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger NE Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 He took a direct feed to the Starter Motor I think, that's why it now cranks . . . He asks for help . . . . but seems unwilling to do some simple diagnostic checks and report back ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
safcdixon Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 He took a direct feed to the Starter Motor I think, that's why it now cranks . . . He asks for help . . . . but seems unwilling to do some simple diagnostic checks and report back ! It tends to happen a lot in tech section tbh, the problem gets fixed but no one gets to know how, then we end up with threads for the same problem because some dont report how they did it or what was broken/faulty Not every OP does this but a small minority do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theredone Posted February 15, 2014 Author Share Posted February 15, 2014 Ive fixed the problem now as i checked all the relays like you said but they was fine, i put the auto loom back on and that fixed the problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger NE Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 Glad you got it going . . . but you may have only needed to link one wire, which would have been a lot less work than replacing the engine loom ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theredone Posted February 16, 2014 Author Share Posted February 16, 2014 The loom change is only 1 hours work, so wasnt that bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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