Burna Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Could someone who's a bit handy with the Toyota EPC help me please? I'm after the part numbers for a full set of brake lines, that right from the fuel tank to the front of the car. Also the same for the brake lines, and a part number for the master cylinder. It's a UK spec car by the way. Diagrams would help too, but don't know how easy that is. I vaguely remember the EPC being online somewhere, but that was many years ago :/ Thanks muchly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 I'd fit braided lines to the calipers and have copper lines made for the rest of the brake lines. Speak to CW or maybe pm Kev O as he changed his fuel lines to custom made ones on his UK car Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burna Posted February 4, 2014 Author Share Posted February 4, 2014 Thanks Dunk I already have the full length brake lines sitting in the garage from Toyota, but was just weighing which was easier to fit, copper or the made to measure already bent ones :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus GTE Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 Hi, would be interested to know how you got on with this and what Toyota charged for the brake lines etc. I had a garage make up copper brake lines for my shogun and it cost quite a bit in labour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 Hi, would be interested to know how you got on with this and what Toyota charged for the brake lines etc. I had a garage make up copper brake lines for my shogun and it cost quite a bit in labour. I don't see why it would take very long to make up the lines, bending the pipe is easy and swagging the ends is only minutes to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus GTE Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 I don't see why it would take very long to make up the lines, bending the pipe is easy and swagging the ends is only minutes to do. My guy said it wasn't a job anyone was looking forward to doing in his garage so I suspect he offered them an enhanced rate as incentive perhaps. Not sure as he's normally quite good but from memory it was well over £200. Are copper lines more beneficial than what toyota fitted due to being less corrosive? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 (edited) My guy said it wasn't a job anyone was looking forward to doing in his garage so I suspect he offered them an enhanced rate as incentive perhaps. Not sure as he's normally quite good but from memory it was well over £200. Are copper lines more beneficial than what toyota fitted due to being less corrosive? Actually changing the lines on some vehicles will be the hard part, making the new ones is relatively easy with the correct tools. Copper lines will last a very long time, way better than the coated steel ones Toyota use You can buy 8 meters of copper brake pipe on a roll for under £15, you'd need the fittings for the ends as well but they're not silly money. You can get a pipe cutter, bending tool and flaring kit for under £20, not used the cheap kits myself but can't see why they wouldn't work. Not a job to do on the floor though so a ramp is essential in my opinion. Edited March 5, 2014 by Dnk (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus GTE Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 Actually changing the lines on some vehicles will be the hard part, making the new ones is relatively easy with the correct tools. Copper lines will last a very long time, way better than the coated steel ones Toyota use You can buy 8 meters of copper brake pipe on a roll for under £15, you'd need the fittings for the ends as well but they're not silly money. You can get a pipe cutter, bending tool and flaring kit for under £20, not used the cheap kits myself but can't see why they wouldn't work. Not a job to do on the floor though so a ramp is essential in my opinion. Cool, thanks for the info. It's a shame it's something so safety critical as I'd feel better having it professionally done but the theory seems very simple. A good skill to Learn I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 (edited) Have a look on youtube, there's a few videos showing how to do it, the only tricky bit if you can call it tricky is doing a nice flared end. A bit of practice and that's pretty easy too If you try to copy a pre bent brake pipe off a car my tip is to cable tie the new pipe to the old and work your way along it bending it to match as you go, do a bend then tie it and so on Edited March 6, 2014 by Dnk (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus GTE Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 Is there anything youtube can't teach you to do? I'll have a look, cheers dnk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 Is there anything youtube can't teach you to do? I'll have a look, cheers dnk. No comment I learn't how to do it working in a race car workshop, it's easy when you know how Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignum Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 To install new brake and fuel pipes on the supra and do the job properly the rear subframe and petrol tank need to be dropped, this is where the labour costs rocket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 To install new brake and fuel pipes on the supra and do the job properly the rear subframe and petrol tank need to be dropped, this is where the labour costs rocket. Indeed!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 Actually changing the lines on some vehicles will be the hard part, making the new ones is relatively easy with the correct tools. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 Volvo introduced copper alloy brake pipes in the early fifties, quite why few others followed I do not know. Nor do I know if current Volvos still use these life long lasting pipes. Anyone? My nineties Volvo does. If you have ever had to re-pipe either an old Citroen, with its tiny bore pipes for its hydropneumatic suspension and brakes, or a late seventies / eighties Rolls Royce, you will understand what a "barsteward job" is! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitbox Junkie Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 What sort of power and pressure can original fuel lines take on the supra? And whats a rough cost on uprated fuel lines for ot and an estimate for the labor costs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T2 MSW Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Stock full lines have been know to be good to 650 hp ish. Think Jamie was running the goose into the high 600s on stock lines. After that it really is upgrade time. Would be advisable to get teflon lines incase you decide to go ethanol at a later date. Cost wise the lines are expensive, and you need new rule filters and ideally a full pressure regulator on the return that replaces the stock one. Which will poss also mean a modified stock fuel rail for a return. Its not a cheap job to do it properly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitbox Junkie Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Have you got a rough estimate on cost. ive got a aftermarket fuel regulator. Just so i know what im going to be looking at next 6-12months Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Style Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Properly? over a grand I think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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