Crash Bandicoot Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 (edited) Hi guys (and gals) im in need of some help! Ive now transferred all the buts from my old (crashed) supra which was a 5 speed hardtop na which has had a TT head, uprated intake, distributor blank. I moved everything across from this car: Engine, Gearbox, Prop shaft, Diff, Ecu and fuel controllers (apexi- two ecu/boxes), Engine loom I have copied everything across except from the push button starts, as both cars have their own differing ones put in... my aerotop which was an auto to start life but along the line had a TT engine in and manual box. But now has my bits in. The hardtop that all the bits have come from had an alarm and immobiliser in... It has a fob to unlock the doors separate from a fob that you plug into a receiver slot that was set up in the centre console. and the key had to be turned to then push the push button to start it. The aerotop i got as a bare shell. And have taken everything off my hardtop and put in this, apart from the cabin loom. The push button start set up on this is a panel with a flick switch and a push button. The push button start panels wire in differently in the hartop and aerotop :/ I have had a friend check with a multimeter that all the fuses are getting power to both sides and double check everything is plugged in. The push button panel switch is getting power to it. Im thinking along the lines of it having an immobiliser stopping it? Or the key having a chip? Not connecting to the ecu(s)? Is it worth trying to change the barrels do the old key works it? The hardtop worked off a bare metal key, the aerotop has a platic covered key... I can get photos of anything if anyone has any ideas... Any help would be greatly appreciated! JAY Edited January 23, 2014 by Crash Bandicoot (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
safcdixon Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 My money would be on that cabin loom having your imobiliser and alram wired into that, maybe the alarm circuit isnt being completed, i would swap the cabin loom to rule that out, even though its a bit of a pain, could also be worth removing the push start for now to rule that out aswell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crash Bandicoot Posted January 21, 2014 Author Share Posted January 21, 2014 I was thinking of doing the cabin loom too, would it matter putting a hartop loom in an aerotop? How hard is it to take the loom out? Do you HAVE to take the dash out or can you get to the wires and pull it out as i have all my dash panels off, most air vent platics out and glove boxes out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
safcdixon Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 I was thinking of doing the cabin loom too, would it matter putting a hartop loom in an aerotop? How hard is it to take the loom out? Do you HAVE to take the dash out or can you get to the wires and pull it out as i have all my dash panels off, most air vent platics out and glove boxes out. Dash has to come out unfortunatly as its screwed to the back of the dash with clips its not to bad of a job tbh just awkward Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crash Bandicoot Posted January 21, 2014 Author Share Posted January 21, 2014 Ok, guessing it would be a PITA to get the wires all back in the same places :/ Any other ideas people? To avoid taking the dash out? Whats the main things to check? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crash Bandicoot Posted January 21, 2014 Author Share Posted January 21, 2014 Can i just get an auto electircian out to fit a new alarm and inmobiliser? Or will they require the car running to do it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger NE Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 I think you'd be foolish to pay a company to fit a new Alarm/Immobilser when it's not even running. (and I doubt if they would want to) There are several things you can check . . . But to begin with, you are being very vague! When you say it won't start, what do you mean? It's turning over OK, but won't fire. Or it's not even turning over? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crash Bandicoot Posted January 21, 2014 Author Share Posted January 21, 2014 Its not even turning over ive said basically all i know, if anyone says to check something ill do it and cross it off the list... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wile e coyote Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Do you get all the dash lights on with key turned then when you try start do they go dim ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crash Bandicoot Posted January 21, 2014 Author Share Posted January 21, 2014 The boost guages light up and the dash wiring doesnt go dim when you turn the key Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wile e coyote Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 You get all the lights on ie engine check light etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOGIE Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Is the starter plugged in? Small 1 pin wire? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crash Bandicoot Posted January 22, 2014 Author Share Posted January 22, 2014 I cant remember exactly what lights come up on the dash but i think it acts normally. Yeah, the stater motor is plugged in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crash Bandicoot Posted January 22, 2014 Author Share Posted January 22, 2014 Ill check what happens with the dash lights when i try tonight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattdavies Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 The main Fuse board fuse intact 120amp one ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crash Bandicoot Posted January 23, 2014 Author Share Posted January 23, 2014 Ive got an auto electrician coming out on saturday. Will post on thread how things go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger NE Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 It's probably something very simple . . . Make up a piece of wire with a Spade Terminal on the end . . . unplug the Spade Terminal wire that goes to the Starter Motor (solenoid). Turn on your ignition and then touch the other end of this temporary wire to the Battery + . . . that will make it turn over Does it now start OK? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crash Bandicoot Posted January 23, 2014 Author Share Posted January 23, 2014 Done some digging on the net, few things i can do/try... Remove the fuse from the ecu for 30 seconds and plug back in which should reset the ecu controlled immobiliser... By-pass the fecker... Or get the alarm/immobiliser ripped out and new one fitted... Or rip the dashes out of both cars and swap the cabin looms out... What you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crash Bandicoot Posted January 23, 2014 Author Share Posted January 23, 2014 It's probably something very simple . . . Make up a piece of wire with a Spade Terminal on the end . . . unplug the Spade Terminal wire that goes to the Starter Motor (solenoid). Turn on your ignition and then touch the other end of this temporary wire to the Battery + . . . that will make it turn over Does it now start OK? No im still at the same point... Only thing im thinking with your temp wire theory is what about the fuel pump? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crash Bandicoot Posted January 23, 2014 Author Share Posted January 23, 2014 Can a mod change the title to include the word immobiliser as i WILL get to the bottom of this and post my solution. Could help futer problems with other supras Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DodgyRog Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Jay you can do it yourself, by clicking Edit on your 1st post and then Go Advanced Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crash Bandicoot Posted January 23, 2014 Author Share Posted January 23, 2014 Top man rog! I will know how to use the forum properly by 2018 id say... Except that damn search button Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buster Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 No im still at the same point... Only thing im thinking with your temp wire theory is what about the fuel pump? Think he just saying to check starter works Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wile e coyote Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 Any joy on this mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DodgyRog Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 He posted on Facebook that it's sorted, it was tbe electric starter button wiring Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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