Erick Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Hi, I've put a turbo kit on a 1993 Supra mkiv na 2jz-ge JDM, and also installed a Greddy Emanage Blue i got from Garage Whifbitz. I also have the Greddy 3 bar map sensor installed to vacuum and cable connected to the Emanage. The wiring seems to work as it should, we can change both fuel and ignition. Car runs fine. But we still have fuel cut at about 0,1-0,2 bar. And I have no clue how to remove this.. Does anybody know how to remove the fuel cut? Also what the jumper settings should be in the Emanage? The included manual I got with the Emanage was in Japanese and I just cant understand it So I've been searching forums and google for days just to be able to do the wiring correctly.. If you have any experience of Emanage on a NA-T or know someone that does, please write or reffer to this thread! Thank you When I got it all running, I will post up a complete schematic to this thread to help others. Thanks. Erick, Sweden. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fly Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 not sure on the blue as i think most guys here use the ultimate, i think you need to be a paid up member to go into the comunities section. But in there is the EMU jumper settings which may help you. As for fuel cut at 0.1-2 bar are you sure the stock map sensor isnt seeing more than 1 bar? on the EMU we set a map clamp voltage to stop this happening. Looks a nice clean install though, fellow NA-T ers will be here shortly!! - - - Updated - - - Edit, i see you are a paid member- look for the club NA-T group in comunities Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erick Posted December 17, 2013 Author Share Posted December 17, 2013 (edited) Thanks for your reply, I've done the built myself, no plug and play kit, all parts separately bought. So I hope it will run well.. I'm unfortionatly not a paid member so I can't access that forum I've read that somehow the EMB can clamp voltage as well, but I don't know how to do it :/ Edited December 17, 2013 by Erick (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodalmighty Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 2-4-1 rings a bell. 2 is number of ignition channel -1 & 4 & 1 are the NA map sensor for a AW11 MR2 so it should be the same voltage range for a NA Supra. But i would strongly recommend you do more research on the web using this info as a guide and if you find some corroborating info give it a try. I don't think getting it wrong will damage the e-manage but I would disable the fuel pump before you try it and use a timing light to confirm you have the correct ignition settings. You will now if you have the map sensor right as it will show 0 MGP (or 100/1.00 MAP) in the software at key on (not running). A MityVac is a very handy tool for testing map sensor ranges v's voltages. Lyndon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fly Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 http://www.greddy.com/upload/file/e-manage_Blue_Install.pdf http://www.greddy.com/tech-support/e-manage/ they might help you out the top one includes jumper settings too, will add this to Club NA-T Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erick Posted December 17, 2013 Author Share Posted December 17, 2013 I think the internal jumper settings is set as they should. Should I do a setting in the Emanage Software on the PC with the boost cut settings? They're set at 5.00 now, I guess the unit is volt, it's not stated. Thanks for your replys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fly Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 The initial jumper settings being standard would be my guess as the EMU jumper settings for the JDM are the standard ones too. The unit will be volts though i am not sure its the boost cut settings without looking at my own map. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fly Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 edit yes its the boost cut voltage but i am unsure of the values Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buster Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Get yourself a full membership beat £10 you will spend one your supra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erick Posted December 17, 2013 Author Share Posted December 17, 2013 Get yourself a full membership beat £10 you will spend one your supra Done now, should be activated in an hour it said edit yes its the boost cut voltage but i am unsure of the values Thanks i hope someone has the answer what voltages I should put in I also got a reply from Garage whifbitz about jumper settings that I'll try in the car tomorrow! Rotary 7-4-0 Jumpers JP1 1/2 JP2 2/3 JP3 1/2 JP4 2/3 JP5 Open JP6 Open JP7 1/2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fly Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 Glad your making progress, were the jumper settings similar to the instruction manual? You should also put up a spec list of your car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erick Posted December 18, 2013 Author Share Posted December 18, 2013 I would say the rotary switches is not what I thought it should be.. But Im a newbie in engine managements! Spec list is as follows: 2JZ-GE NA-T GT35R a/r 0.70 anti-surge compressor a/r 0.68 exhaust Braided oil-line to the turbo with 2mm restrictor 20mm oil return for the turbo Stainless exhaust manifold with T4-flange and v-band for the wastegaten (manifold a bit modified) Tial 38mm wastegate with screampipe 900x600 front mounted intercooler 2.5" intercooler piping custom made 3" stainless steel downpipe with flex 3" de-cat with v-band flanges 3" stainless steel exhaust cat back K&N airfilter and 3" piping to turbo SARD Fuel Preassure Regulator Greddy Oljecatchtank HKS SSQV4 BOV 10-row oilcooler via sandwichplate Silicone hoses from do88.se Automatic gearbox original, except 10-row oilcooler for the gearbox oil Maybe I should put up a project thread in the project section? I have tons of pictures from the build that may be of interest and help for someone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fly Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 i would, it adds more info for the NA-T crowd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian C Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 Your fuel cut might be because the stock MAP sensor is seeing positive pressure. It's an NA engine, it's not supposed to see boost. If you've tapped into the MAP sensor wire you should be able to datalog it: Run a datalog recording and go and hit fuel cut. Look at the MAP sensor voltage where you hit fuel cut. This will tell you around what voltage, probably in the region of 4.5v, that it takes place. Set the anti-fuel cut map to just under that voltage. Go out and try again. Obviously if you go onto boost you'll need the GReddy MAP sensor hooked up and some additional injector fuel to deal with the positive boost, or you'll melt a piston Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erick Posted December 21, 2013 Author Share Posted December 21, 2013 Thanks for your replys, It really helps me out! We do have the greddy map sensor connected I clamped the air flow voltage to 4.48 v thru all revs, and tadaa. fuel cut is now gone! I use rotary and jumper settings as I posted above, and it seems to work. We've puted in a safe map with lots of fuel to start with, and about -1 degree ignition per 0.1 bar boost, and it seems to work quite fine. We've been out running some pulls now and next step is to take the wastegate apart and adjust the spring, since the boost now wants to go far beyond 1 bar and we only want 0.6 bar since we're still on standard injectors and head gasket. I will post up a complete list of settings and wiring diagram when we got everything running 100% And hopefully help other fellow forum members with their na-t's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meikelix Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Hello, can you post a Complete List of Settings ? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erick Posted January 23, 2014 Author Share Posted January 23, 2014 Yes I'll look into it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meikelix Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 (edited) Okay thanks Please as soon as possible Edited January 28, 2014 by Meikelix (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meikelix Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 Hello do you have the Settings now ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meikelix Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 Hello can you Sent me your Map Data? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silece2k6 Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 (edited) At the eMb you have to set the fuelcut with the Greddy emanage software. With a 2jzgte you have to set Clamp: 4.25V Its around ~1bar Its called: Boost Limmiter Cut Setting Edited March 4, 2015 by Silece2k6 (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ccoombsy Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 Hi I am doing the exact same install . Do you have a wiring diagram as I don't have a plug and play harness just the hard wire one. I also have brought a greddy 2 bar map sensor which plugs straight in to the piggy back but do I just disconnect the wiring going to the standard one on the intake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trebor69 Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 Hi I am doing the exact same install . Do you have a wiring diagram as I don't have a plug and play harness just the hard wire one. I also have brought a greddy 2 bar map sensor which plugs straight in to the piggy back but do I just disconnect the wiring going to the standard one on the intake. Go into the N/A-T group pages and there are instructions on how to fit a map sensor, think its 3 bar though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodalmighty Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 (edited) Rotary dials 1) 1 coil (distributor) 3 cyl 2 - 1 coil (distributor) 4 cyl 3 - 2 coil (wasted spark) 4 cyl 4 - 4 coil (coil on plug) 4 cyl 5 - 1 coil (distributor) 6 cyl 6 - 3 coil (wasted spark) 6 cyl 7 - 6 coil (coil on plug) 6 cyl A - Wankel 13B-REW B - Wankel 13B C - Wankel 20B-REW 2 & 3) 20 = HotWire 1 21 = HotWire 2 22 = HotWire 3 23 = HotWire 4 24 - HotWire 5 25 = HotWire 6 40 = Pressure 1 41 = Pressure 2 42 = Pressure 3 47 = Flap 1 48 = Flap 2 49 = Flap 3 49 = Flap 4 By rights it should be 5-4-2 VVTi Supra is 6-4-1 Edited January 28, 2016 by Nodalmighty (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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