berg Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 Anyone on here have a harness bar in their supe? Not looking for a cage, just a harness bar on its own if they exist for our cars If so can you post pics and a link of where you bought it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spikedjack Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 Funky power sell them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan_Q Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 I know there ain't much call for home made on here, but I made my own. I used a rear strutbrace type setup using the ringplates from a cusco item I think it was, used some thick steel channel and some elbowgrease and it works like this: https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/72224_10151261071569735_1952688153_n.jpg it won't suit everyone, as I can only run it with the rear seats locked in the down position- but as I only use the harness on track its not a problem for me. As for its rigidity / fit for purposeness, the scrutineers at the track seemed happy with it. except at the last event when I made the mistake of leaving the missus in the passenger seat, and when asked she told them it was made out of plastic the only supra specific off the shelf harness bar I could find years ago was the US sparco one, but that was like £400. if you could find one. sounds like funky do one now so you should be OK. I'll expect some people might come along now and tell you not to use a harness in a car with no cage.............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_sri Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Harnesses saved me and my mrs' life or at least saved me from being even more of a vegetable..!! I'd recommend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 There was an interesting 'discussion' re the safety of harness's in cars but not re cage/no cage, simply Hans device and no Hans device, I havent read it but the Vascular Surgeon arguing that harness's were dangerous without a Hans had to admit defeat as it appears the harness actually has more 'give' than OEM belts. http://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=378607 The discussion was on 6speedonline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_sri Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Well me and the mrs walked away from a head on collision in which the other party was being chased by traffic police on the wrong side of a dual carriageway..The other driver didn't get so lucky in a newer 'safer' car.. I broke my collarbone from bending the steering wheel but my mrs had cuts and bruises.. As you can see the impact was on her side I had 4 point harnesses/cage/bucket seats.. Think that speaks volumes.. Traffic/paramedics/fire were astonished we weren't more seriously injured considering speeds involved etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berg Posted December 2, 2013 Author Share Posted December 2, 2013 Interesting read in the above link Rob looks like you were lucky in that, no way of even making out what car it is! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berg Posted December 2, 2013 Author Share Posted December 2, 2013 I know there ain't much call for home made on here, but I made my own. I used a rear strutbrace type setup using the ringplates from a cusco item I think it was, used some thick steel channel and some elbowgrease and it works like this: https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/72224_10151261071569735_1952688153_n.jpg it won't suit everyone, as I can only run it with the rear seats locked in the down position- but as I only use the harness on track its not a problem for me. As for its rigidity / fit for purposeness, the scrutineers at the track seemed happy with it. except at the last event when I made the mistake of leaving the missus in the passenger seat, and when asked she told them it was made out of plastic the only supra specific off the shelf harness bar I could find years ago was the US sparco one, but that was like £400. if you could find one. sounds like funky do one now so you should be OK. I'll expect some people might come along now and tell you not to use a harness in a car with no cage.............. Yer theres plenty of common debates, dont use harness without cage, but then a cage without wearing a helmet can also be dangerous, i guess it should either be a race car or a road car, unless you fancy wearing a helmet to the shops lol Yours looks good though especially for a home made item, although i did read harnesses could be dangerous and cause damage to shoulder/collar if they werent at a straight angle going back? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan_Q Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 very interesting posts! rob- that's mega mate- soooo glad you had all that safety kit on board for such an event- very very glad you came out relatively unscathed! awesome. dude- nice to hear a positive about harnesses for once. will have a proper read of that cheers berg- thanks mate LOL I did expect negatives TBH. as for the angle yeah I think your right, straight back like a purpose built harness bar (in my head anyway) would be best. I remember when I first started playing with track kit years ago seeing a diagram (might have been some msa blue book literature or maybe a diagram from somewhere like demon tweeks, can't remember) and it had a max angle from centre line stated- when I did a mk5 celica I could even use the rear seatbelt anchors and that was within limits. The supras rear seats / boot deck where the strut brace is happens to be even higher relative to the front seat, so with that in mind I was happy with how I made it. There's loads of arguments / pros / cons / debates on what's best for road- I'm building this one similar to my Mk2 fast road celica I used to have- rear cage, as its less impact on the "wear a helmet with a cage" reasoning, but using the harness bar instead of the rear belt mounts as to comply with the regs on the class I run in, I have to keep all interior. At the end of the day it will always be a compromise to be practical. Let us know how you get on searching for a harness bar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spikedjack Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 http://www.funkypower.com/catalogue.php?make=TOYOTA%20-%20LEXUS&model=SUPRA&year=93-01+SUPRA&level1=INTERIOR+ACCESSORIES&level2=HARNESS+BARS+%26+HARNESSES&level3=&id_product=5289 here you go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skippyboyo1 Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 http://www.funkypower.com/catalogue.php?make=TOYOTA%20-%20LEXUS&model=SUPRA&year=93-01+SUPRA&level1=INTERIOR+ACCESSORIES&level2=HARNESS+BARS+%26+HARNESSES&level3=&id_product=5289 here you go How does that mount? Ie what to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich.2211 Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 How does that mount? Ie what to? Maybe between the rear seatbelt mounting points and the two legs down to the other seat belt anchor points? Only a guess mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan_Q Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Maybe between the rear seatbelt mounting points and the two legs down to the other seat belt anchor points? Only a guess mind. yep I'm pretty sure that's it, thinking back to when I was weighing one up. i'll have a search for the sparco one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan_Q Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 this pretty much shows it all http://www.mvpmotorsports.com/merchant/catalogpics/mk4/sp_30014g.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich.2211 Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Looks good, I have the seat too far back for it to be of any use to me though I think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Budz86 Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Slightly off topic here but is there any harnesses out there that bolt to the existing mounting points within the supra, without the need for a bar? Or can these be connected to a rear strut brace? I use my supe daily and have been toying with the idea of fitting a harness for the drivers seat for those spirited drives but also wanted to keep the existing seatbelt for day to day use so still weighing up the best option Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 If you dont put the harness in correctly it will not work and could possibly injure you !!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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