Fly Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 Hi guys. Sorry to ask I've been searching but it doesn't really tell me what I'm after. I spent today fitting my new discs and pads/ spacers then attempted to get the gearbox off for my new clutch and fly. I'm pretty much there besides the two top 17mm bell housing bolts (I used the guide from us supra forum) How do you get to the two top bell housing bolts?? I can barely see them never mind get a rachet on them?! Gearbox is a v161 but the bell housing bolts I think are all the same. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich.2211 Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 (edited) Ahhh those two! You need to remove the fan shroud, loosen the top radiator hose, undo engine mount nuts, tilt engine back towards bulkhead (thus giving you visibility of said bell housing bolts), then get lots of extensions all pieced together or one very long extension with the socket on the end and go from the tail end of the box to reach along to the bolts. We used about 1 meters worth of 1/2" extensions on the last one I removed Edit - by engine mount nuts I mean the ones that secure the bottom of the mount to the subframe! Edited November 21, 2013 by Rich.2211 (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berg Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 Cant remember a great deal about mine but i did it while the head was off, all bolts were easily accesable and had no problems at all Maybe do yours while you have your head off to do the tt gasket? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fly Posted November 20, 2013 Author Share Posted November 20, 2013 Cheers rich, these bolts are a pain. Is it just a case of removing the engine mount nuts or do I have to pull the engine from the mounts? Ile dog out plenty of extensions tomorrow then! - - - Updated - - - Cant remember a great deal about mine but i did it while the head was off, all bolts were easily accesable and had no problems at all Maybe do yours while you have your head off to do the tt gasket? Not abad idea too. Thanks mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedrosixfour Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 I used extensions as stated to get the rachet out past the box, but I didn't have to disturb anything in the engine bay to do so. That being said, I was doing the job on both models of 5 speed box, it may be necessary to do what was advised if you are working on a 6 speed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzi Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 Extension on an extension from underneath Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOGIE Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 (edited) Is it safe to tilt the engine back with the mount nuts removed? Personally id loosen them. The engine will be unstable tilted with no mounts attached. Arnt the mounts designed to tilt anyway? Let us know how you get on. Edited November 20, 2013 by LOGIE (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh42 Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 This is the contraption I put together to reach those two last time! Myself and Rich were amazed, but it did work:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOGIE Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 Did you tape them together? Fecked if they separate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh42 Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 Nope, they have a locking system on them all and won't release until the button is depressed:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_jekyll Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 extensions are the key. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich.2211 Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 Just to clarify.... I mean undo the nut on the very bottom of each engine mount i.e the one you get to from underneath the car. The engine will still be resting on it's mounts just as it would normally but allows you to tilt it back a little. I am not saying remove the engine mounts lol! You can even just undo the nut to the end of thread rather than fully remove if it makes you feel safer. I actually know someone (I won't mention names and no it's not me) who drove around for a short while without those nuts on the bottom of the engine mounts even on - but definitely don't get doing that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich.2211 Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 (edited) Is it safe to tilt the engine back with the mount nuts removed? Personally id loosen them. The engine will be unstable tilted with no mounts attached. Arnt the mounts designed to tilt anyway? Let us know how you get on. They are designed to tilt yes, removing or slackening the nut from the very bottom of the engine mount where it goes through the subframe allows it to tilt further. I don't mean remove the engine from the engine mounts. Edited November 21, 2013 by Rich.2211 (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Just to clarify.... I mean undo the nut on the very bottom of each engine mount i.e the one you get to from underneath the car. The engine will still be resting on it's mounts just as it would normally but allows you to tilt it back a little. I am not saying remove the engine mounts lol! You can even just undo the nut to the end of thread rather than fully remove if it makes you feel safer. I actually know someone (I won't mention names and no it's not me) who drove around for a short while without those nuts on the bottom of the engine mounts even on - but definitely don't get doing that This is what worked for me, it was still a ball ache removing the box and I would not advise doing it on your own! I mean ball ache literally, I dropped the box on my nuts. Boy did that hurt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markssupra Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 This is what worked for me, it was still a ball ache removing the box and I would not advise doing it on your own! I mean ball ache literally, I dropped the box on my nuts. Boy did that hurt Lol, but I feel your pain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOGIE Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 They are designed to tilt yes, removing or slackening the nut from the very bottom of the engine mount where it goes through the subframe allows it to tilt further. I don't mean remove the engine from the engine mounts, No disrespect intended mate. Im not doubting your abilities. Just trying to clarify for anyone in future. Myself included buddy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich.2211 Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 No disrespect intended mate. Im not doubting your abilities. Just trying to clarify for anyone in future. Myself included buddy. No worries mate, I didn't mean to sound narky, I just wanted to clarify like you say Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich.2211 Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 I mean ball ache literally, I dropped the box on my nuts. Boy did that hurt I haven't dropped a gearbox on my man tackle but I did undo the complete exhaust system from the first cat whilst lying under the car, forgot to support it and it bounced off my head. Oh and my other special moment came when I decided to fill the box up with fluid before fitting.. completely forgetting it would come straight back out the tail end without the propshaft in there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fly Posted November 21, 2013 Author Share Posted November 21, 2013 Cheers guys I have another day of it today so I am sure I can fashion multiple extensions to get to those nuts. And then have fun putting it back on!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fly Posted November 21, 2013 Author Share Posted November 21, 2013 (edited) Right guys thanks for the help, I managed to find enough extensions to get to the bolt, what a real pita!!! Anyway I went to fit my lightweight cc flywheel with the stock bolts but they are too long. If you look at the picture you can see why, the new flys center section is recessed and not as thick as the dual mass. Anyway does anyone know the size/ type of flywheel bolt I need for this, I thought the rap ones were smaller but Paul tells me they are the same as stock. Thanks again guys. And new clutch so i went to measure the bolts this morning, used a caliper for accuracy, when i got back i realised i had no idea what unit of measure they were. im guessing about 45mm, can anyone using a comp clutch or after market flywheel confirm what bolts you used? thanks Edited November 22, 2013 by Fly (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fly Posted November 22, 2013 Author Share Posted November 22, 2013 so i went to measure the bolts this morning, used a caliper for accuracy, when i got back i realised i had no idea what unit of measure they were. im guessing about 45mm, can anyone using a comp clutch or after market flywheel confirm what bolts you used? thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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