broomie Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 lost my 94 na manual a few years ago, recently replaced her with a totally stock facelift gunmetal tt, but it aint really giving me the buzz that the old one did! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axle Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Book her into a track day - Job done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony tt Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 You replaced an NA with a TT and you don't find it better??? Go bpu then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Raven Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 I hear you, after years of hearing how much better a TT was than an N/A i went out and got a stock Uk spec car. I drove it for 3 days then made my mind up the turbos must be broken as i was waiting for the face ripping time warp speed. Needless to say the car was running fine BPU ftw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellonman Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 agree with above, there must be something wrong with the sequential system for you to not love it more then a N/A simple as that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st3ven1 Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Do you think going from manual to auto had anything to do with it? I found I had more enjoyment out of my two NA manuals than I did in my TT auto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie_b Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 No consolation to you, but I much prefer the look of the stock TT. It's a much nicer colour too IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPG Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 I was really surprised when I first bought my NA-6, it was a really nice car to drive and pulled very well through the gears, saying that I absolutely love my BPU Auto TT . Recently bought another NA as a project so it must have left me with a good impression. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hodge Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Skip the BPU, just go single. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie_b Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Here's a contrarian view: I think chasing more performance or power (and especially chasing bhp figures) can lead to disillusionment with these cars. If you enjoy modding and spending significant time tinkering with the car, then great, but if the modding is just a means to an end to get more power then beware. You'll always fancy more power, so you'll never be satisfied. One thing I like about my NA is that it's pretty robust, easy to look after, I can tinker with it if I want, or I can leave it a year between services if I want. It's easy to live with, and still puts a smile on my face, a smile that isn't dependent on my top speed. It's a hard phenomenon to describe. In the same way, I reckon I'd have more fun around a track in an MX5 or an 2nd gen MR2 than something exotic like a Ferrari or a Veyron. Maybe it's because I don't have the skills to use the Veyron to anywhere near it's maximum, whereas put me in an MX5 and I'd go slower, but I'd have a hoot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tooquicktostop Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Here's a contrarian view: I think chasing more performance or power (and especially chasing bhp figures) can lead to disillusionment with these cars. If you enjoy modding and spending significant time tinkering with the car, then great, but if the modding is just a means to an end to get more power then beware. You'll always fancy more power, so you'll never be satisfied. One thing I like about my NA is that it's pretty robust, easy to look after, I can tinker with it if I want, or I can leave it a year between services if I want. It's easy to live with, and still puts a smile on my face, a smile that isn't dependent on my top speed. It's a hard phenomenon to describe. In the same way, I reckon I'd have more fun around a track in an MX5 or an 2nd gen MR2 than something exotic like a Ferrari or a Veyron. Maybe it's because I don't have the skills to use the Veyron to anywhere near it's maximum, whereas put me in an MX5 and I'd go slower, but I'd have a hoot. Good post and something I have been guilty of several times over ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Your new car looks amazing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 We all agreed then, n/a's are better than tt's? Nice, I like this thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattP Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 I liked my N/A Supras Better than my Brothers BPU Twin I have no Idea why.... Probably Because I spend most of my time at 30/40 mph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abz Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 (edited) I love the new car too, looks much better!! Maybe it is like the first girlfriend kinda dilemma?! I do miss my Ross, he was my first too Edited October 1, 2013 by SPG (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPG Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 I love the new car too, looks much better!! Maybe it is like the first girlfriend kinda dilemma?! I do miss my Ross, he was my first too Sad times Abz, maybe you will meet again at JAE next year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Do you think going from manual to auto had anything to do with it? I found I had more enjoyment out of my two NA manuals than I did in my TT auto. I'm with you on this. When I first saw this thread it was what popped into my head but I didn't want to offend the auto drivers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havard Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Do you think going from manual to auto had anything to do with it? I found I had more enjoyment out of my two NA manuals than I did in my TT auto. I'm with you on this. When I first saw this thread it was what popped into my head but I didn't want to offend the auto drivers It's not a case of offending the Auto drivers, it's everyone to their own and all that. I had a facelift NA and I had a hoot with it. I questioned the power and the fact it had J spec brakes. In the end I sold in in search of a TT. After plumping for a VVTi Tiptronic three years ago I have struggled to justify the use of the car. I never "just" go for a drive in it and if it wasn't for meets and events I would have sold it. Long story short, I will be looking for a mint NA 5 or 6 speed in the future as TT driving is not all it is cracked up to be IMO. Going BPU has made little difference to my opinion as I now have a car that is stupidly quick and that in itself is wonderful. When you consider that within 5 - 10 seconds I am in licence losing territory with a job that needs me to have a licence it doesn't really add up. I think people become obsessed with beating some chav at the lights than actually having the car they want. Who cares if an Astra VXR is quicker? Only thing that bothers me is that I love the look of our Supe and I would hate to change again and start over getting a car the way I want it to look. H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 It's not a case of offending the Auto drivers, it's everyone to their own and all that. I had a facelift NA and I had a hoot with it. I questioned the power and the fact it had J spec brakes. In the end I sold in in search of a TT. After plumping for a VVTi Tiptronic three years ago I have struggled to justify the use of the car. I never "just" go for a drive in it and if it wasn't for meets and events I would have sold it. Long story short, I will be looking for a mint NA 5 or 6 speed in the future as TT driving is not all it is cracked up to be IMO. Going BPU has made little difference to my opinion as I now have a car that is stupidly quick and that in itself is wonderful. When you consider that within 5 - 10 seconds I am in licence losing territory with a job that needs me to have a licence it doesn't really add up. I think people become obsessed with beating some chav at the lights than actually having the car they want. Who cares if an Astra VXR is quicker? Only thing that bothers me is that I love the look of our Supe and I would hate to change again and start over getting a car the way I want it to look. H. I was saying it with a fair amount of tongue in cheek My BM is auto and fairly similar performance to the TT, I just feel that it's missing something when it comes to spirited driving. It's not really to do with the speed that I go at, it's all about how I get there and the control I have during the drive. Don't get me wrong, the slush box is absolutely fantastic and not without it's own merits. I love just being able to point and shoot.... but.... if I could, I would have a manual. I just think that, in this instance, it's what's missing from the ops drive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross C Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 I love the new car too, looks much better!! Maybe it is like the first girlfriend kinda dilemma?! I do miss my Ross, he was my first too Awww Abz, I miss you too honey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abz Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Sad times Abz, maybe you will meet again at JAE next year Awww Abz, I miss you too honey WTH?! I don't believe you Sunny!! I will get you back... I will!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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skippyboyo1 Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 (edited) ive said this time and time again.......................... when looking for my supra i could afford tt or a single but went for an na as reliability is far more important to me than bhp, infact i could easily get a conversion now but not a chance would i do it. When i had my car on the track i loved it even more, the j spec brakes never ever let me down and i could easily out brake everything, Ive often questioned the people who say they HAD to uprade the j specs as they dont fade at all, Ive done turbo before and i got sick off issues and the love died in the end hence never going there again for me personaly Love my na engine with manual box, i often air my view on auto but just incase anyone missed it..................... im not 65 yet and wouldnt want to annoy pedestrians with my annoying droans. that is all. Edited October 1, 2013 by skippyboyo1 (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broomie Posted October 3, 2013 Author Share Posted October 3, 2013 cheers for your input fellas, ive got all the bits to go BPU apart from the FCD & fuel pump. Ill go BPU and see if that helps! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony tt Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 cheers for your input fellas, ive got all the bits to go BPU apart from the FCD & fuel pump. Ill go BPU and see if that helps! It certainly will. If you still want the NA after that there is something very wrong with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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