Davesoarer Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 Hello I am currently in the middle of building a 3.4 2JZ-GTE. I hope to be running 750bhp when it is up and running, I am wondering if a standard oil pump will be man enough for the job? If anyone could let me know if it is or not I would appreciate it Many thanks Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
listy Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 As far as I'm aware, most big power builds stick with the stock oil pump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davesoarer Posted September 25, 2013 Author Share Posted September 25, 2013 cheers, I will stick with the stock one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxluc Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Pics of the build please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee P Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Stock but use a genuine toyota Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gpro Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Hello I am currently in the middle of building a 3.4 2JZ-GTE. I hope to be running 750bhp when it is up and running, I am wondering if a standard oil pump will be man enough for the job? If anyone could let me know if it is or not I would appreciate it Many thanks Dave Seen supras running 850+ bhp with stock engine! just flown head Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc_p Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 That's a fairly low power output for a 3.4, how come you didn't stick with stock? I'm guessing its stroked and not bored? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 That's a fairly low power output for a 3.4, how come you didn't stick with stock? I'm guessing its stroked and not bored? IIRC all 3.4L 2JZs are stroked, 3.2L is the most i've ever seen from a bore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaan W Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 That's a fairly low power output for a 3.4, how come you didn't stick with stock? I'm guessing its stroked and not bored? Stroked on a stock size bore makes it a 3.3 unless it had a 96mm stroke. I'm guessing it's more torque than top end power he's going for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxluc Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 You can bore up to 87mm piston fitting. This gives an additional 70cc, and thus 3066cc. Anything above needs stroker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxluc Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 Imo, a mid range turbo (67mm) plus 3.4 engine is a perfect street setup. Some yanks run serious beasts on that engine setup in combination with E85. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j.oe Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Stock genuine Toyota oil pump, preferably a new one. Always remember: Those parts are up to 20 years worn out. I rised the oil pressure a little bit at mine. Simply add a M6 washer to the pressure regulating spring, that adds 0.5 to 1 bar tho the oil pressure. You find it by opening the hexagonal screw at the upper side. Be aware of the pre loaded spring, when you unbolt ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetrashcanman Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 You can bore up to 87mm piston fitting. This gives an additional 70cc, and thus 3066cc. Anything above needs stroker. really? I thought it was another 100cc? then the extra 300cc was made by the different crank, creating an increase in stroke length and therefore capacity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davesoarer Posted October 1, 2013 Author Share Posted October 1, 2013 I will try and get pics up soon. It is bored as well as the HKS stroker kit. The only reason I will be running low bhp is because I only have the R154 box and I have been told they won't take alot of power, I am going to save for the V160 or V161 the hope to go for 1000bhp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxluc Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 700+ bhp through the R154 box. You have big **** :d Good luck though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davesoarer Posted October 1, 2013 Author Share Posted October 1, 2013 Im guessing the R154 won't take that much bhp. What sort of bhp can they take without breaking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxluc Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 I haven't read a lot on them in combination with big engine setups, but I think they stated on SF that 550-600 rwhp is the upper limit. Check on www.supraforums.com to be sure. Luc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davesoarer Posted October 1, 2013 Author Share Posted October 1, 2013 Thanks I will look on there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Im guessing the R154 won't take that much bhp. What sort of bhp can they take without breaking? Proabably about 3/5ths of what a new one can, and WAY WAY below what a 3.4 stroker could hopefully put through it unless you fit Citroen 2CV back wheels and tyres. Totally unsuitable transmission. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetrashcanman Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Think the r154's are only good for around 650bhp or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 If building a 3.4 stroker with 750bhp (be it single or big twins) then I don't see the point in using anything other than a V160/V161 or a built autobox (Boost Logic or suchlike) if you want any sort of longevity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Strictly speaking Getrag would be horrified at what torque people put through the 6 speed Supra `box. All these big torque creations really need something beyond even the V160, torque handling wise. It's amazing some of them hang on as well as they seem to. Probably a lack of true traction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Strictly speaking Getrag would be horrified at what torque people put through the 6 speed Supra `box. All these big torque creations really need something beyond even the V160, torque handling wise. It's amazing some of them hang on as well as they seem to. Probably a lack of true traction. This is true. If I recall, the Getrag V160/V161 boxes are rated to about 375lbft or so. I wonder if anyone has used a T56 in a Supra before? They are rated a bit higher again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 People with big budgets would be better looking at 5 speed boxes with much wider gear centres and wide gear tooth widths. To be honest these heady torque figures are really the realm of things like uprated Viper V10 transmissions, and the more exotic end of Hewland's in line race transmissions. The Hewlands are small, and should fit in a stock tunnel, but are strictly race only. Tractive were bringing out a high torque 5 speeder, not sure where that's at right now. If it were of the quality of my "normal" 5 speed Tractive sequential I would recommend it wholeheartedly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetrashcanman Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 This is true. If I recall, the Getrag V160/V161 boxes are rated to about 375lbft or so. I wonder if anyone has used a T56 in a Supra before? They are rated a bit higher again. you're kidding right dude the v160 only rated to 375lbft? well I never! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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