berg Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 Anyone on here using the spec stage 3 clutch in the supra? Ive noticed mine has a slight judder on pull off (way it feels is almost like slight rear wheel spin when pulling off normally and the gear stick shakes slightly) If i add a very small amount of extra revs on pull off it doesnt do it at all Does anyone else have this and is it normal? Just want to find out before i investigate further Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee P Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 This is normal for that clutch plate, should have got the stage 1 if you want it to drive like stock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berg Posted August 30, 2013 Author Share Posted August 30, 2013 Thats good as long as i know its normal for this type of clutch thats all, was more worried about it being another problem, it doesnt bother me Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsia Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 Yup, mine does it too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballsdeep Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 I Just installed mine and it also has the same judder on take off, apparently its normal and should ease up after the run in period which is 500miles??? But I'm yet to find confirmation on this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsia Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 It doesn't go away Mine has had beyond the 500 mile run in period, my friend that has a GT-Four has put 2500 miles on his Spec stage 3 and it's still juddering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizzy T Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 It's probably something small like instant grip making it harsh rather than the standard clutch that might have the most minute slip before it gains grip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzi Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 A mate of mine has one in his cammed Pontiac GTO and frequently races it. I decided to try one out on my NA. First thoughts I could feel it bite really hard and was pretty aggressive when moving from a stand still. I broke the clutch in for 1000 miles and started driving it hard after this. Im really into my drifting so when looking for a clutch I wanted something that would handle the power of me kicking the back end out, so I got the Spec stage 3 which is rated at 359 ft lb torque. After a hard session of drifting I did this... surprisingly, the car still drove. [ATTACH=CONFIG]138563[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]138564[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]138565[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]138566[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]138572[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]138573[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]138574[/ATTACH] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastcar Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 To be honest if its anything like my competition puck clutch it will only ever get worse and reversing is a total pain in the rear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berg Posted August 31, 2013 Author Share Posted August 31, 2013 Ouch that doesnt look good at all hope mine lasts lol I couldnt even run mine in as the car wasnt driveable, it went straight on the dyno for mapping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballsdeep Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 Nasty!! Mine looks a little different to yours - I'm tempted to ignore the run in period, its SOOO hard to stay off boost, done 200miles so far and i need to have my na-t mapped again since the first time i had a boost leak, waiting another 300miles will kill me!! what's the worst that could happen ahh.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berg Posted August 31, 2013 Author Share Posted August 31, 2013 I think alot of it is to do with warranty and claiming etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Bieber Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 My 'running in' period on my Spec stage 3 was this years dragonball I definitely didn't stay off boost! Mine still judders about half the time pulling away, I'm using a W58 box though, may be different on a 6 speed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsia Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 Mines on a W58 too, and yes, reversing is a bit annoying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee P Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 Its because the centre plate is segmented basically like a paddle clutch. If you want it to drive like stock you need an organic plate. If the juddering annoys you, buy a stock 6 speed clutch plate from Toyota and swap it over. The stage 3 is only for really big power/torque, stage 1 is fine for most cars. If you have a w58 you may have to put up with it as the stock plate won't take TT power but the 6 speed is fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastcar Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 Its because the centre plate is segmented basically like a paddle clutch. If you want it to drive like stock you need an organic plate. If the juddering annoys you, buy a stock 6 speed clutch plate from Toyota and swap it over. The stage 3 is only for really big power/torque, stage 1 is fine for most cars. If you have a w58 you may have to put up with it as the stock plate won't take TT power but the 6 speed is fine Are we talking about the stage 3 or the stage 3+? As I'm looking to buy one of these clutches soon and don't really want the judder that I have already. I was thinking of getting the stage 3+ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich.2211 Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 To be honest if its anything like my competition puck clutch it will only ever get worse and reversing is a total pain in the rear Bit of a thread revival but my Competition Stage 5 clutch is ridiculous, you literally cannot slip the clutch at all unless your holding the revs ridiculously high. Reversing is a total mare and the judder is unbelievable. I actually thought it was improving but 3-400 miles later and it seems worse than ever. My own fault for buying a 4 puck clutch, against the trusted advice of a trader on here. As you can tell I have finally had enough of my clutch tonight as it's completely ruining the fun of driving the car Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Bieber Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Bit of a thread revival but my Competition Stage 5 clutch is ridiculous, you literally cannot slip the clutch at all unless your holding the revs ridiculously high. Reversing is a total mare and the judder is unbelievable. I actually thought it was improving but 3-400 miles later and it seems worse than ever. My own fault for buying a 4 puck clutch, against the trusted advice of a trader on here. As you can tell I have finally had enough of my clutch tonight as it's completely ruining the fun of driving the car Sorry to hear of your troubles dude! On a separate note if anyone else is considering a Spec stage 3 mine is now dealing with over 410 ftlbs of torque and not slipping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich.2211 Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Sorry to hear of your troubles dude! On a separate note if anyone else is considering a Spec stage 3 mine is now dealing with over 410 ftlbs of torque and not slipping On the plus side I wanted to take the gearbox back off anyway to fit a new release bearing, so may just fit another clutch at the same time. Although, part of me is saying I'm a fool and I should sell the W58, clutch etc. and put the money towards a V160/V161 or a R154 conversion. Decisions decisions.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaLKeRR Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 I have a stage 4 in mine and yeh i get this judder aswell, sometimes i get a small squeek aswell, its ran in now its done 4000km whatever that goes to, been adjusted several times, guess i have to live with it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berg Posted October 1, 2013 Author Share Posted October 1, 2013 Bit of a thread revival but my Competition Stage 5 clutch is ridiculous, you literally cannot slip the clutch at all unless your holding the revs ridiculously high. Reversing is a total mare and the judder is unbelievable. I actually thought it was improving but 3-400 miles later and it seems worse than ever. My own fault for buying a 4 puck clutch, against the trusted advice of a trader on here. As you can tell I have finally had enough of my clutch tonight as it's completely ruining the fun of driving the car Id recommend the spec stage 3 as you know from trax Now its bed in properly it is a bit different, slightly higher bite and i do have a slight squeek on pull off but its great to dive with and is certainly liveable with (alot more than yours by the sound of it) Gets a bit of a pain in works traffic but ive started using the handbrake when stationary (first time since i passed my driving test lol) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich.2211 Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Id recommend the spec stage 3 as you know from trax Now its bed in properly it is a bit different, slightly higher bite and i do have a slight squeek on pull off but its great to dive with and is certainly liveable with (alot more than yours by the sound of it) Gets a bit of a pain in works traffic but ive started using the handbrake when stationary (first time since i passed my driving test lol) I'm really unsure at the moment as I may just bite the bullet, live with it for now and save for a R154 or V160/V161 conversion. If I buy another clutch it's £400 towards the new box gone. Seems a shame to have the potential for all that extra power with the lowered compression and not take advantage. If that all falls through then I'll be taking your advice and going for a Spec item or failing that I have emailed Chris Wilson about his clutches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastcar Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Is the spec 3 clutch a puk clutch or the normal type of clutch? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berg Posted October 1, 2013 Author Share Posted October 1, 2013 Its a 6 puk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastcar Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Its a 6 puk That's what I have at the moment but the competition clutch and I hate it. Anyone tried the spec 3+? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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