Alex Posted August 22, 2005 Share Posted August 22, 2005 Get a couple of bottles of Jif Lemon juice and stick them in a cup....leave over night....rince off with a blast off Brake cleaner in the morning. Have tried it 3-4times due to running rich. Works on my 02 sensor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Posted August 22, 2005 Share Posted August 22, 2005 I can feel a trip to Tesco's coming on. guys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Posted August 22, 2005 Share Posted August 22, 2005 In any case, replacement sensors are quite cheap from Thor, aren't they? Last time I checked they were £40-50 I think, quite reasonable. Not as cheap as lemon juice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnA Posted August 22, 2005 Share Posted August 22, 2005 Yeah, but a new sensor is a new sensor. It's not just the crust, these sensors decay in general, they are like miniature batteries inside. If they are poisoned on the inside no amount of cleaning will work, it depends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soonto_HAS_soop Posted August 22, 2005 Author Share Posted August 22, 2005 Could this be the first one we have seen (as a club) with a very reduced life span due to running it too close to the turbo? AEM Suggests placing it 3 foot away from the turbo outlet. Mine is mounted in the position of the second sensor of a UK spec (as I got CW UK spec 2nd De-Cat pipe), is this too far away for the sensor to work properly? I'm going to extend the range of my gauge by a few points to make it 9.0 to 19.0 and then turn off the maximum alarm function, then I will have to have a play with my emanage, as I got a reading of 9.8 whislt playing yesterday. Also, for reference, the Innovate WB uses a Bosch sensor from a VW, so you can get cheaper replacement sensors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivan Posted August 22, 2005 Share Posted August 22, 2005 Any of these any good? http://www.buypartsby.co.uk/lambda_sensors.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian C Posted August 22, 2005 Share Posted August 22, 2005 Judging by the prices and wiring, every one of those is narrow band and therefore the answer is "no" -Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian C Posted August 22, 2005 Share Posted August 22, 2005 Also, for reference, the Innovate WB uses a Bosch sensor from a VW, so you can get cheaper replacement sensors. VW's have widebands now? Not entirely disputing it what with the emissions regs getting ever tighter, but have you got any more info on that? -Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soonto_HAS_soop Posted August 23, 2005 Author Share Posted August 23, 2005 VW's have widebands now? Not entirely disputing it what with the emissions regs getting ever tighter, but have you got any more info on that? -Ian Well it had a Bosch logo, and what looked like a VW stamp and part number, when I am under the car next I will take the details down off of the sensor and post them up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnK Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 Mine is mounted in the position of the second sensor of a UK spec (as I got CW UK spec 2nd De-Cat pipe), is this too far away for the sensor to work properly? Im not an exprert, but the only problem I see with it that far south is a little lag, but then again how long does it take the gas to travel that far. I put I thread up some time ago about sensors being mounted too close to the turbo, the AEM instrustions recommend 36 inches away from the turbo or the sensor lifespan will be shortened. As most people with a single that ive seen have the sensor mounted less than 6 inches away its a possibility the the sensor (cj's) could well be dead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnA Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 Im not an exprert, but the only problem I see with it that far south is a little lag, but then again how long does it take the gas to travel that far.. Could be more than you think. Having a WB in the 'normal' position and one at the exhaust tip on a RR, I remember a lag of several seconds, which is suprising perhaps if you know the speed of exh gases. I'm not sure you can use the widebands from the new VWs. They may need calibrating first. The replacement AEMs claim to be recalibritated individually, accuracy down to 0.1 AFR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLicense Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 I have my AEM WB half way down my HKS 2nd cat replacement pipe. If I blip the throttle the delta in O2 reading is, well to my eye, instantaneous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnA Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 It could be that backboxes create lag then. I'm talking 3 seconds from turbine elbow to exh tip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian C Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 I have my AEM WB half way down my HKS 2nd cat replacement pipe. If I blip the throttle the delta in O2 reading is, well to my eye, instantaneous. About the same place mine is, it's directly under the gearstick. There is about 0.2s lag in the datalogs, maximum. My WB sensor is over a year old now and it's seen a deal of overfuelling but it's still running OK. Maybe CJ's sensor has failed because it's too close to the turbo but don't forget we don't even know if the O2 sensor has failed yet -Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 ... Maybe CJ's sensor has failed because it's too close to the turbo but don't forget we don't even know if the O2 sensor has failed yet -Ian As soon as I get my finger out and buy a lemon (so to speak) the sooner I can let you know what the problem is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soonto_HAS_soop Posted August 24, 2005 Author Share Posted August 24, 2005 I'm not sure you can use the widebands from the new VWs. They may need calibrating first. The replacement AEMs claim to be recalibritated individually, accuracy down to 0.1 AFR The innovate motorsport gauige and sensor have to be calibrated before they go into the car, but can then be calibrated at any point after that by simply pulling the sensor out and recalibrating it in free air. You are also able to recalibrate it depending on your location in the world, i.e. if you go to a dyno that is 10,000ft above sea level, and you are used to driving around at sea level - it really is a clever bit of kit as it calibrates itself to the free air which is standard at 20.9 I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnA Posted August 24, 2005 Share Posted August 24, 2005 I thought that all widebands have this 'hunting' action. It may be worth investigating if the AEM already does it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V Posted October 4, 2005 Share Posted October 4, 2005 So can you turn the alarm off the Innovate Motorsports gauge? (assume its the one in the pic below?) Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnA Posted October 4, 2005 Share Posted October 4, 2005 Does the Innovative go as low as 9.3AFR? Wow, the AEM craps out at 11:1. ...which is OK, as running richer than 11:1 is not in my 'to do' list, but I wouldn't mind seeing 9:1 instead of 'out of range' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soonto_HAS_soop Posted October 4, 2005 Author Share Posted October 4, 2005 The innovate can have the alarm function turned off. And yes, the innovate can go as low as 1 I believe as you can change the scale of the entire range, you can have it from 10.0 to 10.1 and could also have it from 0.0 to 50.0. It is completely up to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRD3000GT Posted October 4, 2005 Share Posted October 4, 2005 Im getting my new one in as my last one failed on me... Can someone here help me tune the bloody thing! My last one was all over the shop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soonto_HAS_soop Posted October 4, 2005 Author Share Posted October 4, 2005 Im getting my new one in as my last one failed on me... Can someone here help me tune the bloody thing! My last one was all over the shop Use a laptop for tuning, it makes it much easier. Mine is setup fine now..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRD3000GT Posted October 4, 2005 Share Posted October 4, 2005 Use a laptop for tuning, it makes it much easier. Mine is setup fine now..... Can you do mine when I get the new one installed Please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V Posted October 4, 2005 Share Posted October 4, 2005 cheers. You recommend this bit of kit then? I like it because of the look of the gauge :-) SV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soonto_HAS_soop Posted October 4, 2005 Author Share Posted October 4, 2005 Firstly TRD, I can help you tune it when you get it installed, what is it that you actually want it to do? I found the software quite simple to use (not saying that you are simple ) The only bit that took me a while to do, was to chage all of the LED colours when I changed the scale. V, yes I would recommend it, especially the ease of fitting the gauge, it's less than an inch thick. I've installed mine in the facelift standard boost gauge location, took a bit of cutting plastic but looks cool and is easy to see. Only thing I didn't really like, was the fact that you have to fit all the electronics outside of the cabin. Mine is tie clipped up under the body just behind the gearbox, supposedly water proof, but still a little weird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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