Soonto_HAS_soop Posted August 21, 2005 Share Posted August 21, 2005 Just trying to set up my new Innovate Motorsports wideband, but just wondering what people think about the range of AFR I should have it monitor? I currently have it set to 9.0-15.5, but it keeps flashing alarms up at me as when I get off throttle, it goes nuts. Anyone have any suggestions? Also, anyone thinking of getting this gauge, well worth it, simple yet very clever, better than any of the other WB's that I've seen, well worth the cash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heckler Posted August 21, 2005 Share Posted August 21, 2005 probably has an alarm, when you go off throttle it goes quite lean, my AEM W/B goes off-scale which is around 17. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soonto_HAS_soop Posted August 21, 2005 Author Share Posted August 21, 2005 probably has an alarm, when you go off throttle it goes quite lean, my AEM W/B goes off-scale which is around 17. Yeah, it comes standard at 10.0-19.4 which I thought was a little too high, may have to go back and change it all. Blimey, just realised, you've posted in a thread other than Mallets Mallet Si!!! LOL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heckler Posted August 21, 2005 Share Posted August 21, 2005 Yeah, it comes standard at 10.0-19.4 which I thought was a little too high, may have to go back and change it all. Blimey, just realised, you've posted in a thread other than Mallets Mallet Si!!! LOL! Cheeky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soonto_HAS_soop Posted August 21, 2005 Author Share Posted August 21, 2005 Cheeky naughty..... Opps sorry, wrong thread.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted August 21, 2005 Share Posted August 21, 2005 Same as mine. When you come off the throttle it goes off the gauge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLicense Posted August 21, 2005 Share Posted August 21, 2005 Don't worry chaps. When you lift off, the injectors stop pumping fuel into the cylinders, so you're just pumping air through the engine. My AEM AFR goes off the scale at 20. 9 - 15 seems sensible enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarkey Posted August 21, 2005 Share Posted August 21, 2005 Mine jumps between 14 & 15 on cruise and idle. Then jumps to 10 on WOT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian C Posted August 21, 2005 Share Posted August 21, 2005 Yup, every time you lift off you'l get lean readings - mine goes to 19:1. That's why having an alarm function on a wideband AFR gauge seems to me to be a waste of time You'll trigger it all the time under normal driving. 10's are a bit over-rich Clarkey...? -Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarkey Posted August 21, 2005 Share Posted August 21, 2005 10's are a bit over-rich Clarkey...? -Ian Yup. The fueling isn't yet setup on the Rollers. Terry set it up for safety. I think 11's are good mixture ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Posted August 21, 2005 Share Posted August 21, 2005 Mine was running mega righ until sorted by Motec but my AEM WB is now playing silly buggers and nor registering properly at all. When we took it out the sensor part was very black. Could this mean a knackered sensor or does it just need cleaning? If cleaning is the solution, how does one do that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRD3000GT Posted August 21, 2005 Share Posted August 21, 2005 Mine was running mega righ until sorted by Motec but my AEM WB is now playing silly buggers and nor registering properly at all. When we took it out the sensor part was very black. Could this mean a knackered sensor or does it just need cleaning? If cleaning is the solution, how does one do that? I would just get a new sensor mate.. The AEM's dont tell you if the sensor needs replacing.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_have Posted August 21, 2005 Share Posted August 21, 2005 Stick it in a lemon. (NOT orange!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Posted August 21, 2005 Share Posted August 21, 2005 I would just get a new sensor mate.. The AEM's dont tell you if the sensor needs replacing.. But if it is just contaminated due to running rich, then maybe a clean will save me buying a new on eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Posted August 21, 2005 Share Posted August 21, 2005 Stick it in a lemon. (NOT orange!) Is that a serious suggestion Charlie? Will the acid in the lemon clean the sensor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted August 21, 2005 Share Posted August 21, 2005 Yeah he's serious. I remember Dude doing the same. Leave it stuck in a lemon overnight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Posted August 21, 2005 Share Posted August 21, 2005 I will give that a try and let you know what happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_have Posted August 21, 2005 Share Posted August 21, 2005 Yes, its a pretty good cleaner and not too agressive. Where is your sensor mounted? If its mounted low in the exhaust, it can be damaged by condensation during warm up. Also C16 and the like are known to shorten the life considerably. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Posted August 21, 2005 Share Posted August 21, 2005 It is actaully quite hight up close to the turbo. I have never run with C16 so that hasnt ben the problem. The only thing that went funnt was it running mega rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_have Posted August 21, 2005 Share Posted August 21, 2005 Mega rich will foul it. Also, was it cleaned after the engine let go? Oil is worse than fuel (but not as bad as bits of piston!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Posted August 21, 2005 Share Posted August 21, 2005 It was fitted when the engine was rebuilt so the only problem can be the mega richness. I will go out and buy a lemon tomorrow - and it wont be the first time either!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangerous brain Posted August 21, 2005 Share Posted August 21, 2005 mmm my read out from my dyno run is 14.8 at 1522 up to 15.9 2400 rpm dropping sharply to 11.4 by 3700rpm climbing back up to 12.4 by 6667rpm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpie Posted August 21, 2005 Share Posted August 21, 2005 I gues everyone works in AFR rather than Lambda but, here goes anyway AFR and Lambda conversion.doc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnK Posted August 22, 2005 Share Posted August 22, 2005 Mine was running mega righ until sorted by Motec but my AEM WB is now playing silly buggers and nor registering properly at all. When we took it out the sensor part was very black. Could this be the first one we have seen (as a club) with a very reduced life span due to running it too close to the turbo? AEM Suggests placing it 3 foot away from the turbo outlet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnA Posted August 22, 2005 Share Posted August 22, 2005 You could also try brake cleaner for the sensor, do NOT try WD40 though. A blowtorch is handy, it can safely burn off the carbon deposits. In any case, replacement sensors are quite cheap from Thor, aren't they? Last time I checked they were £40-50 I think, quite reasonable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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