JS2004 Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 (edited) Hi guys, just after a quick poll of opinions I have been advised that my camber is slightly out and needs looking into. I have done research here, and if the arms / bushes etc are seized this can escalate into big money. The reason I have been told this is as follows: Had car for four years and have not changed tyres yet as previous MOTs have advised they were fine (dont do much milage) Took car for MOT - passed but advised that front tyres, although legal, were developing a crack across the tread and I should think about replacing them. Called tyre place, booked in for two new front tyres (old - runway enduro 916, new vredstein ultrac sessantas). Took car to tyre place. Asked guy to check back tyres. He said that they were fine tread wise, but advised the inside of the tyre was wearing a bit faster than the rest. however, he said that theyre still legal. I decided to change rears at this point for the vredsteins. I suppose my question is should I be alarmed that my tyres had started to wear a bit on the inside over the course of four years but remained legal? Is this just a slight issue with camber, and does it warrant potentially ending up with a large bill if they have to cut the arms off and install new bushes etc? Additionally I only do typically 2-3k miles a year in it. The age of the car (94) means the arms have probably seized (I read something about a tipex test but dont know if I can do this and I certainly dont have the right facilities / space to give it a try at the moment) If the implications of not sorting it are big and it does indeed need sorting then I will have to get it done. I am however questioning the validity of what I was told at the tyre place based on what happened just before I agreed to put new tyres on the back... Basically - I knew the price of the rears as I had already planned on changing them. I played dumb and asked the guy to quote me for the rears once he told me about the camber and the price he came back with was £40 higher per tyre than I knew it was. Obviously I didnt pay that, and showed him their own website and they immediately dropped the price, but still, it felt like they had tried to pull a fast one! Hence why I am questioning what they have told me. *Edit - Also just to add the car drives straight and doesnt feel as if its pulling anywhere or loss of traction / grip etc but would I notice this as much if its just the rears? Edited August 7, 2013 by JS2004 Additional info.. (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 (edited) First thing i would do is get the wheel alignment checked and then you have some figures to work from. Edited August 7, 2013 by Dnk (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JS2004 Posted August 8, 2013 Author Share Posted August 8, 2013 Good idea mate had not thought of that. Cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 (edited) There are places in B'ham that do free checks so it would pay you to do a search in your area or ask the guys on here that are up your way. I used an F1 autocentre to do my Landcruiser not to long ago but not sure if you have them up your way. Sometimes you can get lucky with the eccentric adjusters and sometimes you don't but i'd get it checked first and then take it from there. Edited August 8, 2013 by Dnk (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 Stock settings on a gte Front Camber - 0.5 degrees +/- 0.75 degrees Caster +3.5 degrees +/- 0.75 degrees Total Toe 0.0 degrees +/- 12 minutes Rear Camber - 1.5 degrees +/- 0.75 degrees Total Toe in 18 minutes +/- 12 minutes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilthenut Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 Stock settings on a gte Front Camber - 0.5 degrees +/- 0.75 degrees Caster +3.5 degrees +/- 0.75 degrees Total Toe 0.0 degrees +/- 12 minutes Rear Camber - 1.5 degrees +/- 0.75 degrees Total Toe in 18 minutes +/- 12 minutes I'd have a fiddle with them, get rid of the moron spec set up. More front camber, less camber on rear- depending on spring rates you run- Little toe out, just a tad, on rear and lil toe in on front for nice feel on turn on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 These are just the o/e figures to give him an idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JS2004 Posted August 8, 2013 Author Share Posted August 8, 2013 Cheers guys. I'll have a call round locally to have the alignment checked and take it from there. It's fully stock suspension and I've never fiddled with it so I'll use the oem figures as a baseline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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