thedirtycat Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 Just had the supra MOTed and they said it failed on emissions and the fact it had no cats in. I said I was told that it would be fine as its a jpec L reg and he said its because he could match it up with a uk spec which shows it should have cats in or something. What should I do ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick85 Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 Just had the supra MOTed and they said it failed on emissions and the fact it had no cats in. I said I was told that it would be fine as its a jpec L reg and he said its because he could match it up with a uk spec which shows it should have cats in or something. What should I do ? Slip him an extra £20 (however I'm not promoting the idea, just saying I've heard about it) could always purchase some cats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellis Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 They shouldn't do that. Ben SZ-R will be along shortly with the correct wordage but essentially they're wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drift_bear Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 If its an NA then there will be no record of it on the uk database so should be exempted iirc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedirtycat Posted June 6, 2013 Author Share Posted June 6, 2013 It's a tt6. Jurgen imported it last year and It was moted in this country last year in may and it passed. It's also failed on the left front brake. Not sure what exactly is wrong with it but he said it couldn't move properly or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fly Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 sounds like they are matching it against a uk spec tt which would have cats and your emmissions are obvioulsy higher. Is this a new place you have taken it to? just saying they might be pushing their luck!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedirtycat Posted June 6, 2013 Author Share Posted June 6, 2013 sounds like they are matching it against a uk spec tt which would have cats and your emmissions are obvioulsy higher. Is this a new place you have taken it to? just saying they might be pushing their luck!! Yea it's a new place. Jurgen had it moted when it came into the country and it passed and this is the first time I've moted it. I usually go down the road but couldn't get the supra up on the ramps. Just spoken to Jurgen and he says it wouldn't fail because of it not having cats but on the emissions meaning I might need a new lamda sensor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jord Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 Find another garage and get a second opinion. Try one of the ones owned by a member. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedirtycat Posted June 6, 2013 Author Share Posted June 6, 2013 Find another garage and get a second opinion. Try one of the ones owned by a member. Might try the one that "fast car" gets his moted at as his is the same spec as mine. Will have to find out later what exactly is wrong with the brakes but might just upgrade to uk spec brakes anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashbuster Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 jap specs pistons tend to seize Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedirtycat Posted June 6, 2013 Author Share Posted June 6, 2013 The reasons I got for it failing were: Exhaust catalytic converter missing where one was fitted as standard. Exhaust emissions carbon monoxide content after 2nd fast idle excessive Got no results written down on my actual emissions. Do you think it might just need a new 02 sensor? Jurgen said they won't fail it for not having cats but just the emissions but it looks like that was one of the reasons for them failing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastcar Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 Give me a txt fella and i will point you in the right direction these guys will look after you. As said above the sticking brake is most likely a seized caliper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheefa Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 I had my J-spec 1996 done mate with no CATS and it passed because they could not match it on system. It faisl the first test but passes the most important second one. They are taking the p!ss here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Budz86 Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 I was told the need for a CAT depended on age. My local MOT centre told me mine didn't need one as it was registered June 1995 iirc. Anything August 95 onwards needs one if it had one fitted ad standard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 (edited) Just had the supra MOTed and they said it failed on emissions and the fact it had no cats in. I said I was told that it would be fine as its a jpec L reg and he said its because he could match it up with a uk spec which shows it should have cats in or something. What should I do ? They are wrong, they have done a CAT test which your car is exempt from, they should have done a non CAT test (which it should easily pass without any cat fitted if it's in good working order). This is taken from the Tester Manual, print it out, shove it in their face and tell them to http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/9263/picture1nq.jpg Edited June 6, 2013 by Nic (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David P Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 (edited) They're not wrong they're quite correct. J spec TT has a GTE engine which as far as they're concerned is same as UK spec GTE engine and the rules state quite clearly that it must pass a cat test. N/A's have a GE engine which only comes in grey import so not on the UK database and only needs to pass a no cat test. You bought it with a bent ticket mate. Edited June 6, 2013 by David P (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Budz86 Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 But also as far as they are concerned the jspec and UK models were setup differently and had different additional hardware, such as turbos. Also, iirc Toyota claimed both versions had different power outputs, meaning they aren't comparable models. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David P Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 In the book it's a GTE and a GTE is a GTE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjy Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 It's done on chassis number too. DVLA/VOSA will only have emissions related data on UK cars. As afore mentioned, UK's have different turbo's, an EGR system and 550cc injectors, not 440's like the J-Spec. Also, if he's failed it on "catalytic converter where one was fitted as standard..." - Prove it. It's an import. Just like if it doesn't permit a normal, UK style plate, it can get away with a smaller plate. Imports = No cat test. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedirtycat Posted June 7, 2013 Author Share Posted June 7, 2013 Spoke to the guy that Moted it and he said he put the engine and chassis number in and it came up with an exact match to a uk spec so it meant they had to fail it on having no cats and obviously the emissions were too high because of this. He said to ring vosa and that maybe they had made a mistake. Also the brake thing apparently was just a hose that needs adjusting which they can do for free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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