supra steveo Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 (edited) a few times this week the car has needed a little push to get started and its as if the battery has gone flat, the radio and the clock lose their memory too its really beginning to do my nut in could it be the starter motor ? one plus side is my speedo has stated working again Edited May 13, 2013 by supra steveo (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJI Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 Nobody replied to your question yet? I have a not too distant issue at the moment with mine, being that my battery keeps discharging quicker than one would expect. My line of thinking was that as I mainly use my car only during summertime weekends when the weather is nice that my car's security system drains the charge over a period of two weeks when the car is not being used. But this would be a serious amount of drain coming from the security system alone (I would have thought). So this leads me to think that the battery cells could be damaged and are simply not holding their charge (maybe due to winter storage?). It reads the normal 12V once the charger comes off, but over a period of two weeks the charge reduces down to 9V or below. I've topped up the cells with distilled water but so far having no 'saving' effect. I'm no battery expert so I'm not sure how a battery cell becomes damaged and the mechanism of how it refuses to hold a charge for a decent amount of time, or if once a battery is given a charge then it must have a route in which to discharge. So I will wait for replies by some more knowledgeable people Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie_b Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 steveo: by "a little push", what do you mean? It sounds like the battery is indeed draining, but if it hasn't got enough power left to run the dashboard clock, I'd say it would need a jump start or if you're feeling brave a bump start. Can you go into more detail about the symptoms? AJI: I'm no expert either but batteries have a finite life. Charging an old battery doesn't restore it to factory-fresh condition. Over time the battery will hold less charge as the internal cells get less efficient. I think it's corrosion/deposits on the electrical plates over time but don't quote me on that. I wouldn't be surprised if my car wouldn't start after 2 or 3 weeks being left alone. 9V sounds too low to start the car, but again don't take my word for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra steveo Posted May 14, 2013 Author Share Posted May 14, 2013 It's stopped the car starting on 2 occasions now and instead of turning over it clicks , the dash lights are still and I've bumped it twice after bumping it the stereo and clock have been reset and after a few minutes of running it will start again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coleboy Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 I would guess the battery is shot, only by testing the voltage across the battery when it don't start will tell you, it must be charging for it to start after a run, otherwise it would die while running and cut out....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie_b Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 It's stopped the car starting on 2 occasions now and instead of turning over it clicks , the dash lights are still and I've bumped it twice after bumping it the stereo and clock have been reset and after a few minutes of running it will start again It sounds like a tired battery, but just to make sure, next you have to bump it (do you really mean "bump start", as in pushing it down a hill and turning the key?), turn off the engine and try to re-start it. If it doesn't start, it's probably the battery (as I suspect). If it does start, it'll be the starter motor contacts (not likely based on what you've said). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
safcdixon Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 Mine sometimes clicks when the battery clamps arent quite tight enough, i have my battery on and off alot due to it not being used much and currently stripped, may sound obvious but easily overlooked It does sound as if your battery is gone like but worth checking before you splash out on a new one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra steveo Posted May 14, 2013 Author Share Posted May 14, 2013 halfords mate so its a one for one swap coz i only bought it last year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra steveo Posted May 16, 2013 Author Share Posted May 16, 2013 right battery was fubar'ed yesterday and took it to halfords to exchange it and today ive got the exact same problem, the car wont start again so is it the alternator that is fubar'ed ? it looks on the dash like there is loads of power there until i turn the key then the mad clicking noise starts again the lights dim until i turn the IGN off but when i turn the key back on it looks like there is power there again my head is slightly fragged Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 Get a mechanic to check the starter motor and the output of the alternator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra steveo Posted May 16, 2013 Author Share Posted May 16, 2013 Will give one of the lads at work a quick job tomorrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra steveo Posted May 17, 2013 Author Share Posted May 17, 2013 (edited) looks like the alternator is ok so leads me to the starter motor there is defo power there because we can hear the clicking the alternator was kicking out a steady 13.20 volts so i guess thats ok, the bump starts are seem to be canny violent lol was nearly dragged under the car last night....................... yeah that would of been fun explaining that to the medics ......... " i ran myself over......." Edited May 17, 2013 by supra steveo (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camry5Sgte Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 My money is in the starter.... The clicking gives it away. If it were battery it would at least use what little juice it had to turn the engine and the sound of the engine turning would mean the starter was good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra steveo Posted May 18, 2013 Author Share Posted May 18, 2013 Hey Brad mate !! car still running well ? mine is ok apart from the obvious starting problem am on the hunt for a starter referb kit too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashbuster Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 My money is in the starter.... The clicking gives it away. If it were battery it would at least use what little juice it had to turn the engine and the sound of the engine turning would mean the starter was good the battery i was using was just clicking and not turning over. and the battery was no good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 (edited) the battery i was using was just clicking and not turning over. and the battery was no good you mean the starter was clicking as the battery only had enough juice to engage the starter gear but not actually turn the flywheel hence it clicks Edited May 18, 2013 by Dnk (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashbuster Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 yes buggered runs fine with a new odyssey 30 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FOSTA Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 I've got a starter motor here that I can let go cheap if you want it Steve? If your battery is new and your alternator is working fine then it can only be the starter motor really. Hope you get it sorted dude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra steveo Posted May 18, 2013 Author Share Posted May 18, 2013 How cheap we talking Fosta? I was going to try and referb this starter, I've seen that they can be a bugger to get to and it has to come off anyway looks like its going to be one of those learning curve jobs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra steveo Posted May 26, 2013 Author Share Posted May 26, 2013 update ive done the starter referb thats in the tech pages , ive switched out the plunger and both contacts, it started twice then it went back to clicking again so ive ordered a brand new starter motor just to rule that out . while trying to start the car and giving the starter a tap with a breaker bar it failed again to start and then the Immobiliser/ Alarm went mad and none of the dash light were coming on, now the stereo keeps turning its self on and off so i think ive got a massive wiring/electrics problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FOSTA Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 How cheap we talking Fosta? I was going to try and referb this starter, I've seen that they can be a bugger to get to and it has to come off anyway looks like its going to be one of those learning curve jobs £20 dude but I see you have bought a new one. Good man that will sort it! Liam had the same problem and was fixed with a new starter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra steveo Posted May 26, 2013 Author Share Posted May 26, 2013 yeah but it seems like the electrics are going mental , might pop down to the local auto electricians if a brand new starter doesnt square it away Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra steveo Posted May 30, 2013 Author Share Posted May 30, 2013 (edited) Update: brand new battery and a brand new starter fitted yesterday and it was starting fine and started fine this morning until i got to work and now its clicking again , what the hell else could it be ?? Edited May 30, 2013 by supra steveo (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 (edited) I think you need to get it checked again. What voltage does the battery have in it when the problem started again ? You have an earth problem, alternator problem or a drain on the system thats emptying the battery which needs properly checking. Edited May 30, 2013 by Dnk (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian C Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 Sounds like the alternator isn't charging the battery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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