Kaan W Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 (edited) Hi all, I thought I would start a thread in need of some information for my new engine build, I think the first thing to take into consideration is the transmission even though its rated beyond its 800rwhp capabilities I would like to stick around this figure but on a high boost + nitrous setting for the strip. This should allow me to run a smaller turbo to make it usable on the street without a mega lag. I would like to see over 700rwhp for the street eventually but as im building the engine soon I need to know what to modify in order to hold up for when I go for some more power. To start with a have a freshly rebuilt stock GTE bottom end with approx 2000 miles on it, along with a PHR race port and polished head with supertech dual valve springs, locks, retainers etc shimmed with 272 inlet and exhaust cams, this will be my base to build on. Supporting mods I have already - Bosch 044 fuel pump ID 1000cc injectors Whifbitz fuel rail Sard FPR Supersport coil packs Syvecs Whifbitz twin WG manifold 3" full decat system 4 Row intercooler Alloy rad Twin electric fans Twin transmission coolers Parts list I was planning for the block to get me started (Updated) - ARP Head studs ARP main studs Billet timing belt tensioner Welded timing gear Upgraded Rods Upgraded Pistons ACL bearings Titan crank pulley Titan cam gears New water pump New oil pump Later mods - S363 Boostlab billet wheel turbo Twin Walbro fuel pumps 4" Down/midpipe Aftermarket intake TRD differential ?? ?? I think thats it for what I have in mind right now but as I think of anything i'll update the list, please tell me if theres anything I have missed or anything thats not needed. Any help and ideas would be much appreciated! Thanks Edited May 12, 2013 by Kaan W Parts list changed (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxluc Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 All in all, good spec list. I would go for a 4" exhaust system (DP and MP too). Don't start twice, as the 3" will be limited around 750bhp. What pistons / rods do you have in mind? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Budz86 Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 Might be worth thinking about a twin fuel pump setup that is staged by the Syvecs and possibly an uprated timing belt, although that is probably unnecessary if yours is new. You keeping the stock pistons or have you got aftermarket ones lined up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxluc Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 I would go for an aftermarked intake plenum. - - - Updated - - - I agree ... single Bosch 044 can struggle above 700bhp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaan W Posted April 30, 2013 Author Share Posted April 30, 2013 Might be worth thinking about a twin fuel pump setup that is staged by the Syvecs and possibly an uprated timing belt, although that is probably unnecessary if yours is new. You keeping the stock pistons or have you got aftermarket ones lined up? Yeah I was thinking of going twin pump but that can be changed once the engine is built and in the car, as for the timing and serpentine belts I was going to go for Power Enterprize as they match everything else in my bay. I was hoping to keep the block with standard internals as its fairly low mileage but just add the ARP hardware for extra support. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaan W Posted April 30, 2013 Author Share Posted April 30, 2013 All in all, good spec list. I would go for a 4" exhaust system (DP and MP too). Don't start twice, as the 3" will be limited around 750bhp. What pistons / rods do you have in mind? Im just focusing on the longblock for now Luc but I will bare that in mind, I did mention to upgrade to an after market intake manifold as for the internals I want to keep stock mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxluc Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 Change the rod bolts whilst you have the engine out. Hodge did this, and ran 850+ bhp without issues on stock internals (pistons and rods). All the ARP parts are a top choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaan W Posted April 30, 2013 Author Share Posted April 30, 2013 Change the rod bolts whilst you have the engine out. Hodge did this, and ran 850+ bhp without issues on stock internals (pistons and rods). All the ARP parts are a top choice. ARP head studs ARP main studs ARP big end bolts I meant rod bolts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxluc Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 Roger that. Your list looks pretty complete. What intake plenum do you have in mind? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaan W Posted April 30, 2013 Author Share Posted April 30, 2013 (edited) Roger that. Your list looks pretty complete. What intake plenum do you have in mind? It looks ok for as much as I can think of right now, would you say the billet timing belt tensioner and welded crank gear is necessary? Im not sure on the plenum yet I have found a Veilside but it has no runners or TB, I will more than likely go with a greddy or simular. Also i'll be happy with anything over 700hp so if thats achieveable with most of the parts I have then it makes for an easier build to see what needs replacing after the figure is produced. Edited April 30, 2013 by Kaan W (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxluc Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 I have a GReddy plenum, which is fine. I welded the lower runners to the plenum, although they were originally forseen to be bolt on. But I didn't want to take the risk for potential leaks. Pay attention that some plenums need their specific rails to match. I would keep the list as it is (TB tensioner and welded CG). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaan W Posted April 30, 2013 Author Share Posted April 30, 2013 I have a GReddy plenum, which is fine. I welded the lower runners to the plenum, although they were originally forseen to be bolt on. But I didn't want to take the risk for potential leaks. Pay attention that some plenums need their specific rails to match. I would keep the list as it is (TB tensioner and welded CG). Does the whifbitz rail and IDs fit most aftermarket plenums? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaan W Posted April 30, 2013 Author Share Posted April 30, 2013 (edited) Also are the Power Enterprize belts a good choice? Edited April 30, 2013 by Kaan W Stupid question. (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxluc Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 Check that with Paul. I had in mind that a VS plenum would need VS rails, but I'm not really sure on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaan W Posted April 30, 2013 Author Share Posted April 30, 2013 Can anyone point me in the right direction for a good quality gasket set and is a stock HG suitable? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcbt Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 Does the whifbitz rail and IDs fit most aftermarket plenums? iirc they will work with one of Pauls hypertune plenums Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markssupra Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 Stock toyota gasket set including the head gasket will be fine, thats what Lee recommended for my build. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaan W Posted April 30, 2013 Author Share Posted April 30, 2013 iirc they will work with one of Pauls hypertune plenums Ok thanks, I will have to find out as I want to keep the rail and injectors I have. Stock toyota gasket set including the head gasket will be fine, thats what Lee recommended for my build. Yeah I think i'll stay with the stock head gasket i'll buy a whole gasket set from Toyota, thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxluc Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 Hypertune plenum works with Pauls fuel setup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan_Turism0 Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 have you thought about 2 T88 turbo's........oh wait Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaan W Posted May 2, 2013 Author Share Posted May 2, 2013 have you thought about 2 T88 turbo's........oh wait Nope. Would I be better off with the S362 for 7-800hp at the wheels? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Budz86 Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 Yeah I think i'll stay with the stock head gasket i'll buy a whole gasket set from Toyota, thanks! Think Paul does them cheaper mate, Toyota don't do a full set afaik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaan W Posted May 2, 2013 Author Share Posted May 2, 2013 Think Paul does them cheaper mate, Toyota don't do a full set afaik I ordered it from Titan in the end as it can be packaged with my transmission. On another note can ARP head studs be reused? Because I have 2 sets one on the car and one on the new engine but I want to take the head back off to go over everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Budz86 Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 Pretty sure they can be, otherwise you'd need a new set ever time you removed the head! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaan W Posted May 2, 2013 Author Share Posted May 2, 2013 Pretty sure they can be, otherwise you'd need a new set ever time you removed the head! I thought so, just checking before I order some parts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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