TT Paul Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 im after some advise from fellow supra owners on what to do!! basically want more power 450-500bhp:d would be nice got some grounds to build on as follows stock autobox aem fic 550 injectors full bpu hybrid turbos stage 1 what can i do that won't cost thousands and add/use what i've got i thought up the boost see what happens, or small single ideas on cost would be good parts/lbr etc.. many thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Bailey Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 You would benifit from a set of 264 cams! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT Paul Posted April 18, 2013 Author Share Posted April 18, 2013 asked that before but was told gains would be low ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Bailey Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 asked that before but was told gains would be low ?? Rubbish! You'd notice the gains. Another thing to consider is a set of 650cc drop in injectors. Maybe look into buying a 3800rpm hi stall - It wont add bhp but there cool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mplavery Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 There was a car that Ryan done which had a Syvecs on which got to 450bhp from what I can remember with hybrids Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Bailey Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 There was a car that Ryan done which had a Syvecs on which got to 450bhp from what I can remember with hybrids This graph is from a BPU car with stock turbos at 1.2 bar with Whifbitz 264 cams! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_Mitchell Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 Drift bear has 500bhp on hybrids, copy his build Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellonman Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 You could always take it to a friendly dyno place and get the figure you want with out paying anything other then the power run, you are at the limit of what you can do without spending a large chunk of cash, Injectors will be needed for anything over 500 Turbos will be needed very shorty after if you try and gain the power by upping the boost 1.4 is the real limit for long life but 1.5 they could die very quickly and as they are only stage 1 I would say they would make more heat hen power over 1.4 Turbo, manifold, down pipe, breather set up, oil and other fuel lines, mapping , Add it all up and then add labour and after all of it you spent £xxxx for a car thats not as good to drive. My point is if you like and enjoy how your car runs now dont get hung up on the numbers and let the recent power run slide Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abz Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 Wallis single turbo is on Gumtree for about £8k Sell this & buy one already converted to a single turbo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT Paul Posted April 19, 2013 Author Share Posted April 19, 2013 thanks for input guys all mixed think the cams could be worth go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 (edited) Longer duration, higher lift cams will give you more mid to upper rpm power at the expense of a little low down response. In256/ex264 is regarded as a good setup for stock/hybrid turbos, you will need the ECU remapped to get the best out of the cam swap, don't expect big gains (possibly 20-25hp) you'll feel it when the 2nd turbo comes online and it should pull to the rev limit with less drop off in power. The 550cc injectors should be sufficient. If you want a true 500+hp then you really need to dump the sequential turbos and fit a small single turbo but this will cost you many £k's to do properly. Edited April 19, 2013 by Nic (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 Rubbish! You'd notice the gains. Another thing to consider is a set of 650cc drop in Low down response will be affected a little but it should pull harder when the 2nd turbo kicks in, it's a lot of money though for only moderate gains. 550cc injectors will be sufficient if he's keeping the hybrid turbos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonR24 Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 Drift bear has 500bhp on hybrids, copy his build Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT Paul Posted April 19, 2013 Author Share Posted April 19, 2013 hes going to db so may ask what hes done cost etc.. thanks again for all the replies and your time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Bailey Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 hes going to db so may ask what hes done cost etc.. thanks again for all the replies and your time He bought it as a 500bhp Hybrid turbo already Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT Paul Posted April 19, 2013 Author Share Posted April 19, 2013 well can at least have a look Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodec j Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 he's selling his so could by it paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bambisdad Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 I agree with Mellonman:thumbs: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT Paul Posted April 20, 2013 Author Share Posted April 20, 2013 You could always take it to a friendly dyno place and get the figure you want with out paying anything other then the power run, you are at the limit of what you can do without spending a large chunk of cash, Injectors will be needed for anything over 500 Turbos will be needed very shorty after if you try and gain the power by upping the boost 1.4 is the real limit for long life but 1.5 they could die very quickly and as they are only stage 1 I would say they would make more heat hen power over 1.4 Turbo, manifold, down pipe, breather set up, oil and other fuel lines, mapping , Add it all up and then add labour and after all of it you spent £xxxx for a car thats not as good to drive. My point is if you like and enjoy how your car runs now dont get hung up on the numbers and let the recent power run slide you know what after the dyno i was peed off just come back from a spirited drive, the grin is back maybe it was just me i'm happy with what i got, spending £ss on a car i only drive in good weather well !! if i had the money which i could if wanted to would just put a dent in finaces, lesson learn't. again thanks for all your input Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abz Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 you know what after the dyno i was peed off just come back from a spirited drive, the grin is back maybe it was just me i'm happy with what i got, spending £ss on a car i only drive in good weather well !! if i had the money which i could if wanted to would just put a dent in finaces, lesson learn't. again thanks for all your input Good man, it's rapid enough as it is!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT Paul Posted April 20, 2013 Author Share Posted April 20, 2013 so yours this db tt lump going in bud!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abz Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 so yours this db tt lump going in bud!! Hopefully so!! It's currently with Ash having open heart surgery done!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stp88 Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 I believe in starting with upgrading the electronic first as this allows you to use max all you have. A Syvecs ECU would be the best start , you can make the best of the OEM setup and then upgrade as you need , lf you add up all the other bits and add-ons that you can get to make the car run better then you are back to the price of a Syvecs , 1. Syvecs 2. Fuel regulator 3. Fuel pump 4. Injectors and rail kit 5. Clutch 6. Turbo 7. Intercooler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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