stevie_b Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 I'm in the process of fully refurbing my J-spec front brake calipers, and I'm wondering what to use for lubrication on the slider pins? Some people use copper grease, but others say that's not right as it's too abrasive and is an anti-seize rather than a lubricant: http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/forum/archive/index.php/t-138469.html Chris Wilson kindly pointed out to me that I shouldn't use red rubber grease on the slider pins, I think it's because the pins get too hot for it (hopefully he'll correct me if I've got the reason wrong). Chris: do you sell the Neo cv moly grease in re-sealable containers? The grease is something I'd like to keep handy in my toolbox when when I eventually refurb the rear calipers. If so that could be ideal. This is a possibility: http://www.amazon.com/Permatex-24115-Caliper-Hi-Temp-Silicone/dp/B000HBGKH4 So is this, but it depends on what your rubber seals/ dust boots are made of: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000HBNV6W Some good info here, but the stuff they recommend might not be available in the UK: http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1082760 Shipped from the US here: http://www.amazon.com/CRC-SL3301-Synthetic-Caliper-Grease/dp/B000M8Q234 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 Page BR-28BR.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooter Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 I used a Molybdenum Disulfide lubricant for the sliders...can't remember the brand, will try and look tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Budz86 Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 Watching with interest as I'm doing this at the weekend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie_b Posted March 25, 2013 Author Share Posted March 25, 2013 Avoid the mistake I made and make sure all the pistons are nearly out before you remove the caliper(s). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iky Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 (edited) I'm in the process of fully refurbing my J-spec front brake calipers, and I'm wondering what to use for lubrication on the slider pins? Some people use copper grease, but others say that's not right as it's too abrasive and is an anti-seize rather than a lubricant: http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/forum/archive/index.php/t-138469.html Chris Wilson kindly pointed out to me that I shouldn't use red rubber grease on the slider pins, I think it's because the pins get too hot for it (hopefully he'll correct me if I've got the reason wrong). Chris: do you sell the Neo cv moly grease in re-sealable containers? The grease is something I'd like to keep handy in my toolbox when when I eventually refurb the rear calipers. If so that could be ideal. This is a possibility: http://www.amazon.com/Permatex-24115-Caliper-Hi-Temp-Silicone/dp/B000HBGKH4 So is this, but it depends on what your rubber seals/ dust boots are made of: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000HBNV6W Some good info here, but the stuff they recommend might not be available in the UK: http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1082760 Shipped from the US here: http://www.amazon.com/CRC-SL3301-Synthetic-Caliper-Grease/dp/B000M8Q234 I would have thought the pistons get hotter as they have direct contact with the pads. Red rubber grease is the one to use with piston seals when rebuilding calipers. Toyota themselves supply a pinkish grease with caliper rebuild kits. I'm sure Chris himself mentioned that Red rubber grease should be used. Made by a company called 'Girling' Edit - http://mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?118243-Grease&highlight=girling Edited March 25, 2013 by Iky (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wile e coyote Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 He has said the sliders not the pistons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iky Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 (edited) He has said the sliders not the pistons The manual states Lithium soap based glycol grease on the sliders & also the pistons. Edited March 25, 2013 by Iky (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie_b Posted March 30, 2013 Author Share Posted March 30, 2013 (edited) Does anyone know whether the red grease supplied in the Toyota refurb pack is "lithium soap based glycol grease"? I'm guessing not but it's in an anonymous sachet. A clue here, post #7 --> http://www.toyotaownersclub.com/forums/topic/117761-brake-caliper-guide-pin-grease-type/ Part number 08887-01206. But here it says differently: http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1014314 Toyota Disc Brake Caliper Grease p/n 08887-80609 Toyota Disk Brake Grease III, tube 100 gm, p/n 08887-02706 Flippin' confusing! I could phone up Toyota and see if they know. Edited March 30, 2013 by stevie_b (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie_b Posted April 9, 2013 Author Share Posted April 9, 2013 I phoned up Toyota and they said it was "assembly grease", and I think it's safe for the slider pins as well as the pistons. I'm assuming the "disc brake grease" that goes on both sides of the anti-squeal shims has to be sourced separately. What would you recommend for that? Copper grease? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Budz86 Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 I have always used copper grease Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 (edited) I recently rebuilt a set of calipers, I used Fuchs red rubber grease around the seals and molybdenum grease on the slider pins. Edited April 9, 2013 by Nic (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 I phoned up Toyota and they said it was "assembly grease", and I think it's safe for the slider pins as well as the pistons. I'm assuming the "disc brake grease" that goes on both sides of the anti-squeal shims has to be sourced separately. What would you recommend for that? Copper grease? I wouldn't bother with the anti-squeal shims, you get a firmer pedal feel without them. I didn't use grease on the the back of the pads either to avoid risking it getting on the friction material. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie_b Posted April 9, 2013 Author Share Posted April 9, 2013 Thanks Nic. By molybdenum grease, do you mean something like this? :- http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200854449661 Or does it need to be moly grease specifically for brake applications? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 Thanks Nic. By molybdenum grease, do you mean something like this? :- http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200854449661 Or does it need to be moly grease specifically for brake applications? Yes that's exactly the same one I used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjy Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 Pagid Ceratec, available from Euro car prats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie_b Posted April 9, 2013 Author Share Posted April 9, 2013 Quick question, why not use the red grease that Toyota supply? Not practical if you do it for a living, but if I can eake it out, should I just use the stuff they supplied in the kit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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