Kev.O Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 God knows why and who would wire them up like this, looks awfull. See my edit Original location with LEDs will look nice IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra_ufo Posted April 13, 2013 Author Share Posted April 13, 2013 Now we are getting somewhere I'm pretty sure this is what the issue is. You need to fit 21watt bulbs or use resistors to stop the flasher unit thinking there is a bulb out. Unfortunately the larger bulbs probably won't fit in the main headlights and so you will need to fit separate indicator units. I was afraid you will say that :-( Resistors is an option but I am not sure what to do, Ill ask Iky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaan W Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 See my edit Original location with LEDs will look nice IMO. Yeah thats the same as mine, prehaps the previous owner thought it was easier to wire in the fogs than change a bulb It doesn't look to bad on yours but I have HID dipped lights. But as you said white led sides in the bumper should sort the look out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev.O Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 I was afraid you will say that :-( Resistors is an option but I am not sure what to do, Ill ask Iky. Personally the first thing I would do is temporally set up 21watt bulbs to prove this is the correct solution. Once working correctly you can sort out the resistors. The issues with the smaller bulbs is that they are nowhere near as bright meaning other road users might not be able to see the indicator and your intensions. Also with your head lights on, the indicator will be even more difficult to see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev.O Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 Yeah thats the same as mine, prehaps the previous owner thought it was easier to wire in the fogs than change a bulb It doesn't look to bad on yours but I have HID dipped lights. But as you said white led sides in the bumper should sort the look out. White LEDs in the headlights with HIDs look good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra_ufo Posted April 13, 2013 Author Share Posted April 13, 2013 Personally the first thing I would do is temporally set up 21watt bulbs to prove this is the correct solution. Once working correctly you can sort out the resistors. The issues with the smaller bulbs is that they are nowhere near as bright meaning other road users might not be able to see the indicator and your intensions. Also with your head lights on, the indicator will be even more difficult to see. So potentially it could fail an MOT, I might ask Ben this... Thanks Kev. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaan W Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 White LEDs in the headlights with HIDs look good In position 4 or where the fogs are? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev.O Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 So potentially it could fail an MOT, I might ask Ben this... Thanks Kev. I honestly don't know, I was thinking more of letting on coming traffic know you're about to turn right, in front of them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev.O Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 In position 4 or where the fogs are? Position 4. Here's a picture though I don't have one of the lights on I'm afraid: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaan W Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 Position 4. Here's a picture though I don't have one of the lights on I'm afraid: http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa39/Casey-Kev/RearLights006.jpg Yeah that will look good, what indicators are they do they come with leds in them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev.O Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 Heckler special : Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaan W Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 Heckler special : http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa39/Casey-Kev/DSC00207.jpg They look sweet! I think these are much better over stock giving more of a crisp flash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev.O Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 They look sweet! I think these are much better over stock giving more of a crisp flash. I agree, Si done a great job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iky Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 I was afraid you will say that :-( Resistors is an option but I am not sure what to do, Ill ask Iky. After an extensive google sesson I'm pretty sure the problem is down to the lower wattage bulbs. I wouldn't bother with resistors matey, a lot of them get too hot so you have to be carful where you put them. I would try to find some indicators and ft the correct 21W bulbs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev.O Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 Depending on whether you want pre facelift or facelift indicators I would buy the looms first. I'm sure someone has some pre facelift connectors lying around after upgrading to facelift. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra_ufo Posted April 13, 2013 Author Share Posted April 13, 2013 Posted in wanted thanks guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra_ufo Posted April 14, 2013 Author Share Posted April 14, 2013 I temporarily connected a 21w bulb to the indicators and guess what? it works!! Looking closely I can see that the side light cable (currently the indicator) cable had been tampered with as it has a plastic sleeve around it so and some point in life it had been rewired. What didnt help is that my uncle (who I bought the car from) said that it used to work fine, obviously, he was talking rubbish but I forgive him considering the car has not been driven for ages. I just cant believe I didn't pick this up earlier! such an easy problem to fix. Thanks for everyone's help. Now I need font indicators/loom :-/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
listy Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Posted 20-03-2013 I don't know mate. Never removed it. If it was working before, when you changed the bulbs, are they the correct wattage? The bulbs to fit in the sidelights will be smaller that stock indicator bulbs iirc so may be the wrong wattage. Looking at what you've said, that's what I would check first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Kev.O Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Looking at the video again, am I right in saying you are using the pre facelift side light bulbs (with orange bulbs) for the indicators? If so then this might be why the indicators are flashing too fast. The side light bulb is 5 watt where are the indicator bulb is 21 watt. The difference in the wattage will cause the same effect as a bulb blown. The reason why it doesn't do it with the hazards is because there are 6 bulbs as opposed to 3, therefore stopping the electronics from seeing wattage difference. I don't know mate. Never removed it. If it was working before, when you changed the bulbs, are they the correct wattage? The bulbs to fit in the sidelights will be smaller that stock indicator bulbs iirc so may be the wrong wattage. Looking at what you've said, that's what I would check first. Also, make sure all the connector plugs in the dash are tight, and the same for the bulbs. A lose bulb, although still working, can cause this, as I had that the other day. Sorry Listy, beat you by a few weeks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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listy Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Sorry Listy, beat you by a few weeks So you did mate lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev.O Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Only jesting. Most important thing is that you sorted it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra_ufo Posted April 14, 2013 Author Share Posted April 14, 2013 Only jesting. Most important thing is that you sorted it! Already in talks with Heckler RE LED indicators like yours... It appears no one has any pre or facelift with bulb holders, Ive even tried Keron. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra_ufo Posted April 21, 2013 Author Share Posted April 21, 2013 Decided to buy some load resistors as I could not justify spending alot of money on the LEDs from Heckler YET! The indicators are working now, I swapped them from LED ones, I think they give off enough light being where they are. I also followed the guide for resetting the airbag light and it works! Next up is insurance and MOT. Thanks for everyone's help and I have learnt my lesson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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