supraGZaerotop Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 (edited) hi all, now my supra has been feelin really nervous on the road lately, its not a daliy drive so ive put it off for months and months. but today it was up on the ramp and my mates gave it the once over, checked for play in the front, got the pri-bar out etc, nothing on the front everythings solid. since i first bought this supra in summer 2011 it has never felt quite right on the road, sort of wanders i suppose but not really bad if you get where im coming from, just abit vague and its not giving me the feedback i want to be able to feel safe init. one of the things ive noticed is there are new bilstens on the front but its still got its 20 year old tokico toyota shocks on the back, but apart from that the only thing they found was my rear left toe arm looked dodgy only had minimal play but loads of corrostion coming out of the bush etc. and also my rear left tyre is toast now due to the toe arm i suspect. the right side of the car is fine. ive included some photos, what do you think? ive ordered a new arm £173 inc all new cam adjusters and bolts etc, also a replacement 275/35/18, brandnew bilstein rear shocks off chris wilson. then its a full alignment. bush is looking a tad tired these are the original jdm tokico shocks on back, the front shocks have been replaced with bilstiens by the previous owner, maybe 3-5 year ago, cars done very little mileage, so the front shocks are as new. Edited February 12, 2013 by supraGZaerotop (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Nic Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 (edited) On a 20 year old car all the suspension components will be very 2nd hand by now, you could change the odd component, get the geometry checked/aligned and it may make a small improvement but to really make a difference the simple answer would be to completely overhaul the suspension with new parts. An expensive job but the improvement it makes will shock you - it'll feel like a totally different car - and you'll realise just how worn out the suspension was before. I would always recommend fitting brand new OEM Toyota parts. Edited January 26, 2013 by Nic (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supraGZaerotop Posted January 27, 2013 Author Share Posted January 27, 2013 ok but whats the differnce between bilstein and tokico struts. my car has 100k/miles and is 20 year old in august this year, its been on the ramp and there is zero play in any off the components apart from this rear left toe arm! pretty good for 20year old, i can see where you coming from for sure, but its all money and not an option right now im afraid. how much does the rear toe arm cost nic?On a 20 year old car all the suspension components will be very 2nd hand by now, you could change the odd component, get the geometry checked/aligned and it may make a small improvement but to really make a difference the simple answer would be to completely overhaul the suspension with new parts. An expensive job but the improvement it makes will shock you - it'll feel like a totally different car - and you'll realise just how worn out the suspension was before. I would always recommend fitting brand new OEM Toyota parts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supraGZaerotop Posted January 27, 2013 Author Share Posted January 27, 2013 (edited) another thing im going to do is wire brush everything off and i want to paint all the components, the arms etc. surface rust looks ruff. the car does not get a massive amount of use and so i thought to paint everything and i mean everything, looking to spend time and a good job, not just slap it on like. can anyone recommend the best paint to use on the control arms/etc, im not going to touch the main underbody as its mint, just the suspension. Edited January 27, 2013 by supraGZaerotop (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjy Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Get a 4 wheel alignment done first. You could spend hundreds polybushing the whole car, and it might just need a tiny adjustment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Get a 4 wheel alignment done first. You could spend hundreds polybushing the whole car, and it might just need a tiny adjustment. A lot of places offer a check for free so well worth doing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wile e coyote Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Replaced all my arms last year as they were all seized, not cheap but well worth it Try replace them in pairs and get a proper geometry done not just a 4wheel lazer alighnment Chris Wilson is your man if your close to him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjy Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 A lot of places offer a check for free so well worth doing Gotta love these "diagnose my car from your computer/iPhone/laptop/iPad" threads! I'd be a millionaire by now if it was that easy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Chris Wilson is your man if your close to him Agree, well worth the drive to get a proper diagnosis of what needs doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supraGZaerotop Posted January 27, 2013 Author Share Posted January 27, 2013 ive also seen powerflex bushes on ebay for the rear toe arm instead of getting a new arm, any thoughts ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supraGZaerotop Posted January 31, 2013 Author Share Posted January 31, 2013 (edited) Replaced all my arms last year as they were all seized, not cheap but well worth it Try replace them in pairs and get a proper geometry done not just a 4wheel lazer alighnment Chris Wilson is your man if your close to him Well il replace just the one side for now, and got a pair of bilsteins on order off chris wilson, so im hoping with a new arm and new rear shocks and the geo adjusted my car will feel tiptop again. Replacing my rear shocks because the front have been done ( bilsteins) and rear hadint which are the standard tokicos from japan, 20 year old. Edited February 10, 2013 by supraGZaerotop (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supraGZaerotop Posted February 9, 2013 Author Share Posted February 9, 2013 Thanks to chris wilson for getting me these babies, great deal, straight from germany, bilstein even gimme a free pen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sjsupra Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 i also need to change my front and rear suspension parts, but dnt know where i can buy it... any assistance shall be appreciated... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supraGZaerotop Posted February 10, 2013 Author Share Posted February 10, 2013 i also need to change my front and rear suspension parts, but dnt know where i can buy it... any assistance shall be appreciated... chris wilson on this forum can sort you out new parts, great price also, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supraGZaerotop Posted February 11, 2013 Author Share Posted February 11, 2013 some more new bits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wile e coyote Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 What's the items in the second picture of your last post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supraGZaerotop Posted February 12, 2013 Author Share Posted February 12, 2013 Hi, they are new insulaters for the rear shocks, dust/dirt covers. The old ones are completey shot and in about 10 pieces, didint want to put new shocks on without new covers. £73 from toyota. What's the items in the second picture of your last post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wile e coyote Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 Ah ta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Glad you like them, but even I don't get free pens, and I buy dozens of Bilsteins.... Hmmm, will have to push for freebies next time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supraGZaerotop Posted February 15, 2013 Author Share Posted February 15, 2013 Yeah theyre great chris thanks, quality. Theyre going on next thursday now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supraGZaerotop Posted February 21, 2013 Author Share Posted February 21, 2013 fitted them today, feels really solid now on the rear. anything i should know regarding the geo setup on a supra? ive got 275/35/18 on the rear, 235/35/18 front Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott87 Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 what was the cost of the bilsteins? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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