ballsdeep Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 its working now mate, im using it to try and find the exact lenght of hose i will need for the oil return and feed.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d-_-b Posted January 19, 2013 Author Share Posted January 19, 2013 its working now mate, im using it to try and find the exact lenght of hose i will need for the oil return and feed.. Cool, would imagine one of the guys on here could give you a rough idea on length depending in how you were planning on running them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fly Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 just to keep this thread alive .. just tried to go on the clubna-t site/forum .. doesn't seem to be working? Ive had mixed results, my phone gets on there site but iPad and laptop doesn't :s odd... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballsdeep Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 The only problem I have with that site is half the pictures don't work!! I bought this: It was described as a toyota soarer return line for a t61 so I took a gamble but the hose itself is only about 8" 9" long.. The flanges and fittings all look ok so I'm just going to replace the hose but Haven't found the answer yet.. I will be using xs mani Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan_Turism0 Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 juts an fyi for those interested 4runner cap - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d-_-b Posted January 20, 2013 Author Share Posted January 20, 2013 juts an fyi for those interested 4runner cap - http://i47.tinypic.com/34dhstx.jpg Nice one again Dan, cheers for these! Are a great help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan_Turism0 Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 b;3583200']Nice one again Dan' date=' cheers for these! Are a great help [/quote'] np mate if you need a part number/ref just shout Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d-_-b Posted January 20, 2013 Author Share Posted January 20, 2013 np mate if you need a part number/ref just shout Cheers dude - really appreciated buddy. You'll be my go to guy for part numbers now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d-_-b Posted January 22, 2013 Author Share Posted January 22, 2013 Have updated a few of the threads in the group. Any other NA-T owners about that havent yet made themselves known : D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fly Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Found some good info on fuel injectors. 1987-1991 RX 7 Turbo II are high imp top feed injectors so drop straight into the GE fuel rail. Purple top are 550 CC Red are 460CC have an oval bottom. P.S i found this after realising the 440s i have from a tt will not fit,,,becuase they are side feed...muppet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David P Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 440's from a MkIII 7M-GTE fit the MkIV N/A rail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fly Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Yea i read the 7m jets fit but require a resistor or some electrical trickery to not burn the ECU. TBH i hvaent really looked into it i was looking more at direct plu and play. I did have a nice read of a flow test that was done on here of the stock NA injectors by variying the fuel rail pressure by way of FPR , very good read and makes me think that even the guys with entry level kits (no mods to head gasket) could up there fuel pressure and keep the stock 8 psi to push more than 300 bhp without too much fear. obvioulsy the better solution here is to get bigger injkectors rather than rape the stock 330s but is a nice theory Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh42 Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 So what are we saying is the best option here? Do the RX7 injectors have to have a resistor pack? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fly Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 If you go for the ones i have just mentioned they dont require a resistor pack where as the 7ms do.....Would like some info from the 7m side though is this purley a resistor soldered in somewhere or is it a complicated matter. I have also updated in the technical section of club NAT on here with reference to boosting to 1 BAR on stock head gasket i thought we were risking the engine with anything over 8 psi or is the reason we are limiting to 300 bhp because of our weedy 330s? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d-_-b Posted January 22, 2013 Author Share Posted January 22, 2013 Would like some info from the 7m side though is this purley a resistor soldered in somewhere or is it a complicated matter. Would be good to know what was needed for this and if this was a diy process.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fly Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Searching Club NAT as we speak. I am more confused about boost levels with the stock head gasket and what limits the boost, be it compression ratio or weedy jets. Keep seeing figures of 1 bar banded about with stock compression and uprated jets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d-_-b Posted January 22, 2013 Author Share Posted January 22, 2013 Searching Club NAT as we speak. Good man I am more confused about boost levels with the stock head gasket and what limits the boost, be it compression ratio or weedy jets. Keep seeing figures of 1 bar banded about with stock compression and uprated jets I believe its mainly the compression is mainly the limiting factor of how much boost can be run... Compression: (Taken from 2JZ NA-T basics post) - available in the links sections of the Club NA-T group: "10:1 compression limits you to around 7-8psi without fiddling with your ignition timing (stock timing has a big "spike" of advance around 4000-4500rpms that will cause detonation if running more than 8-9psi and the base timing is not retarded 3-4 degrees)" That's why to run the higher boost you need to lower the compression ratio, either via TT pistons or thicker head gasket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fly Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Very true, but by winding back the ignition what can we run. If your going this way you are bound to be running some sort of piggy back able to controll fueling and ignition so the timing spike should easily be mapped out. I know im probably asking a big and grey area question that will require a few formula and math. Or failing that a spare NA motor I am also pulling the quote from club NAT on here that says GE head gasket + ge pistons = 1 bar boost 500bhp?? was this a guess or has this been done and on what fuel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fly Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Well from what i have found on club NA-T and plenty of other sites, the 7M jets are really not worth the hastle they are only 440cc so not a huge improvement over stocks and require quite a bit of wiring though i cannot find a diagram or How too as of yet still searching though. Best option by far seems to be RX7 jets : - 89-91 13BT high oval center 550cc purple 195500-2020 Drop in, plug in and off you pop. Now is there going to be an ebay bidding war on these monkeys?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d-_-b Posted January 22, 2013 Author Share Posted January 22, 2013 Well from what i have found on club NA-T and plenty of other sites, the 7M jets are really not worth the hastle they are only 440cc so not a huge improvement over stocks and require quite a bit of wiring though i cannot find a diagram or How too as of yet still searching though. Best option by far seems to be RX7 jets : - 89-91 13BT high oval center 550cc purple 195500-2020 Drop in, plug in and off you pop. Now is there going to be an ebay bidding war on these monkeys?? If you are going towards big power, then yes the 440's would be superfluous as the 550's would be much more suited. However for the 300-450ish range I would imagine 550's would be a bit OTT and so the 440's are more suited. I believe the 330's can do quite well up towards 400bhp but they reach their max cycle and so thats when the 440's come into play. I dont think the in-line resistor setup is massivly complex, would just be nice to know what exactly is required to do it. - Think the 440 injectors are easier to come across than the rex 550's? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fly Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 I agree totally as ive seen 7M refurbed jets for as little as 150 coins of the realm. for 6 not 1. I will continue to look for a "guide" on the matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noz Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Hi my names noz and I also have an NA-T. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buster Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Ah hello Noz how long have you been na-t then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noz Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Longer than you've been dreaming of boost boy'o Or at least considering it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masterfett Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 b;3585141']Have updated a few of the threads in the group. Can you invite me in please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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