tbourner Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 New Top Gear series starts the end of Jan. But for now, GT86 on the website: http://www.topgear.com/uk/photos/toyota-gt-86-tetsuya-tada-yoshinori-sasaki-2012-08-24 Particularly see 11 of 14. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sukhy Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Cant wait for the new season to start with the long road trip to Vegas.. Looks good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guigsy Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Saw a few gt86's recently. Saw a blue one this morning. Looked nice. Haven't seen a brz yet though. Which is nice from a Toyota pov Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheefa Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Top Gear magazine this month was an excellent read and yes the shows aired this year seem to be of good content - although doubtful of any real use/help! America in the Vanquish, LFA and Viper. Nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 I don't envy Toyotas task at all, they have some very big shoes to fill, and straight away comparisons will be drawn against the R35. Hopefully, Toyota will resist the temptation of AWD and give us another RWD brute with one hell of an engine. Unfortunately, I suspect that a manual gearbox won't feature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spikedjack Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 I don't envy Toyotas task at all, they have some very big shoes to fill, and straight away comparisons will be drawn against the R35. Hopefully, Toyota will resist the temptation of AWD and give us another RWD brute with one hell of an engine. Unfortunately, I suspect that a manual gearbox won't feature. 100% agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny g Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 I fear for most roadcars, the true-manual shift is dead in the water purely because it can't compete with shift times for 0-62 or other benchmarks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Double-clutch gearboxes are faster, more efficient and easier to use. In high performance guise they're also very engaging. I do love a manual car, but driving a motor with a decent DCT 'box shifted my perception somewhat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spikedjack Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Although I agree with johnny, most people like the feel of a manual box when hooning, it may be dated, but actually makes you feel like you're in 100% of control. The newer boxes like in the r35 for example are 100 times better in every way mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny g Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Double-clutch gearboxes are faster, more efficient and easier to use. In high performance guise they're also very engaging. I do love a manual car, but driving a motor with a decent DCT 'box shifted my perception somewhat. Nothing will ever come close to your "love" for CVT though, eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Nothing will ever come close to your "love" for CVT though, eh? CVT can be OK in higher-powered applications, but as a general rule it is the work of the devil and I want the person who came up with the theory to explode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitz Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 When is the New Top Gear set to start? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDukesy Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 GT86 with changes towards Supra styling to celebrate 20th anniversary of the supra. http://blog.toyota.co.uk/gazoo-racing-and-trd-tease-new-concepts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 When is the New Top Gear set to start? January 27th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westy Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 I read that Toyota are showing a new turbo model with a 6 speed box and RWD at the Tokyo Auto Salon...think it said 330bhp from factory, but can't find the link!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheefa Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 In the Top Gear mag they stated the new TRD version of the GT86 (available as an option) will only have suspension and aero tweaks, no brute engine upgrades which is a tad disappointing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 In the Top Gear mag they stated the new TRD version of the GT86 (available as an option) will only have suspension and aero tweaks, no brute engine upgrades which is a tad disappointing. Not really when you consider that the warranty stays intact with these mods. There will be brake mods too BTW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 I fear for most roadcars, the true-manual shift is dead in the water purely because it can't compete with shift times for 0-62 or other benchmarks. I totally agree, but find it sad that people are so hung up on numbers. There's a place for automatic and automated manual gear boxes, but there should also be a place for manual gearboxes - the sports car. The auto gearbox in the mkiv Supra is a work of art, but not everyone want an auto, which by the looks of it Toyota realised while developing the MKIV. My main hang up on this subject is Renault - the last bastion of the 'true' hot hatch, has abandoned manual gearboxes No matter what you do to an auto / auto-manual gearbox, you can't replicate the clutch pedal, which is an integral part of the hot hatch experience. Sad times indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DodgyRog Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 This has just come up on the Toyota Uk Facebook page http://blog.toyota.co.uk/gazoo-racing-and-trd-tease-new-concepts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheefa Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 This has just come up on the Toyota Uk Facebook page http://blog.toyota.co.uk/gazoo-racing-and-trd-tease-new-concepts Oh yes, that rear end with the diffuser in last pic. Love it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian C Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 This has just come up on the Toyota Uk Facebook page http://blog.toyota.co.uk/gazoo-racing-and-trd-tease-new-concepts And here: http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?282821-More-new-Supra-chatter&p=3569532&viewfull=1#post3569532 Oh yes, that rear end with the diffuser in last pic. Love it. Really? I thought it looked horifically ugly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheefa Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 And here: http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?282821-More-new-Supra-chatter&p=3569532&viewfull=1#post3569532 Really? I thought it looked horifically ugly Menacing Ian, it looks menacing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian C Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 mmm I sort of see it although the prongy bits will snap off at the first dodgy parking move It's the picnic hamper bungee corded onto the back that put me off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 CVT transmission is the dream of every F1 engine designer. No mechanical dog engagement and disengagement,with crank shock loads at every change, the engine is permanently at optimum RPM and load. Williams had it about 90% sorted, then it was banned. It may make an engine sound odd, but by shifting a finite number of gears we strive, but fail, to emulate a CVT As auto boxes gain more and more gears, they get closer to CVT, but are still an infinite number less 6, 7 or 8 less than optimal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverSoop Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 Looks lovely Am I right in thinking that the Lexus LFA was supposed to be the new ''mkV''? Anyway, the GT86 does the job and looking forward to seeing this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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