buster Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 (edited) Am i right in guessing na and tt ecu plugs are the same? I have just bought a E-manage and it has come with the wiring adaptor for a supra loom. having looked through the wires and seen it has more wires going into the supra loom than in the na wiring guide I found... if some one can shed any light on this that would be great If any help. EmanageUltimate_Wiring.pdf Edited December 7, 2012 by buster (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DodgyRog Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 Ooooooo spageti for Tea, sorry I am no help am I Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodalmighty Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 (edited) NA and TT plugs are the same but some pin assignments are different. Auto's have more than Manuals and TT's more than NA's. Lyndon. Edited December 7, 2012 by Nodalmighty (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buster Posted December 7, 2012 Author Share Posted December 7, 2012 (edited) iv just posted up the diagram link to the E-manage (in my first post if this helps also my car is a n/a manual also the socket part of the supra loom has ASW100-GEU if any help... Edited December 7, 2012 by buster (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodalmighty Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 That is simple stuff mate. I assume you have the harness wired to suit a TT and need it re-jigged to suit an NA configuration? Would you like me to rewire it for you (I have an NA I can test it on) ? regards, Lyndon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buster Posted December 7, 2012 Author Share Posted December 7, 2012 from what I can see all the wires are wired in where they are ment to be just some other stuff wired in thats not on the n/a digram that i found i guessing this shouldnt be a problem tho...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buster Posted December 7, 2012 Author Share Posted December 7, 2012 ok just spent the evening shifting through the loom and seems its for a tt (all the ingition wires are joined up) so im going to put them back to stock... the speed in and out are joined so im guessing thats for the delimter...? also the cam angle in is wired in but not on my diagram do you think this matters? and the analog voltage in and out are wired up would this need putting back to stock or can i leave them? any help wanted please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Nodalmighty Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 (edited) I think you must have the install diagram fro a e-manage blue. I think you can run the ultimate in this mode but the ignition on a TT will always be one cycle behind on retard. Using the crank and cam triggers allow the ignition timing to be done properly. I doesn't matter on an NA as you can wind 5-10 degree of retard in on the dizzy and use the e-manage to advance the timing 5-10 back so any retard used is current rather than lagging by one engine cycle. The analog in/out will be for the map/maf sensor so leave one connected as is. Remember to only return IGN2-6 back to stock IGN1 is the same on both na and tt looking at the diagrams back to back. It will confuse the feck out of the next person who comes to map the thing later on though Lyndon. Edited December 9, 2012 by Nodalmighty (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buster Posted December 9, 2012 Author Share Posted December 9, 2012 im running the 3 bar map sensor that clips in on the opiton 1 plug in on the emanage iv cut and rejoined the ign 2-6 back in to stock shall i just put the cam angle back to stock also to not confuse anything ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodalmighty Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 I don't know the ultimate well enough to make that call. I guess you can as your diagram shows an Ultimate plug header and it's not connected. You still need to keep the factory map as it uses this to clamp the voltage to avoid fuel cut. Lyndon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buster Posted December 9, 2012 Author Share Posted December 9, 2012 ah right im with you also what abouth the wideband sensor would this not need wiring in somewhere ??? sorry for all the questions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky-Ricky Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 You don't get fuel cut on an N/A do you..thought the MFA would simply run out of range/voltage, presumably your N/A is going to be boosted, so you will be using the Greddy MAP sensor to scale the fueling maps, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buster Posted December 9, 2012 Author Share Posted December 9, 2012 ricky that seems to make sence and the wideband sensor how would i wire this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky-Ricky Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 The EMU is not capable of actually running a W/B sensor, it will take an analog voltage output from an existing W/B controller, but if your thinking of using the self tune option of the EMU my advice would be don't bother as its crap! but if its just for logging its will be fine and useful. I'll have a dig through my info and see if i can find the wire colour v polarity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barneybrendan Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 i still have all my fitting instructions saved on my laptop if its any help to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buster Posted December 9, 2012 Author Share Posted December 9, 2012 im going to get it mapped if thats what you mean? sorry if i sound a bit dumb to all this but its a lot to get my head round been this my first time fitting a turbo on a car Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barneybrendan Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 no i have the wirring diagrams for fitting the emanage to the na pin outs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buster Posted December 9, 2012 Author Share Posted December 9, 2012 ah sorry brenden didnt see ur first post. iv got the diagrams and so thats no worrys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buster Posted December 10, 2012 Author Share Posted December 10, 2012 anymore input on this please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky-Ricky Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 For the wide-band input depending which input harness type you get the two wire one with a white and a grey, the white is the signal wire and the grey is the ground, i also found this if you use an AEM and the other input harness, http://www.club3g.com/forum/1590320-post3.html. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buster Posted December 10, 2012 Author Share Posted December 10, 2012 i have the greddy wideband gauge so should work well im guessing the e-manage will need to have a wideband sensor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky-Ricky Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 i have the greddy wideband gauge so should work well im guessing the e-manage will need to have a wideband sensor I think your misunderstanding about wide-bands, in order to monitor wide-band AFRs you will need a wide-band controller, this can be built into a gauge unit or separate, this bit of electronics is what enables the gauge to read a suitable wide-band sensor, Now they usually come as a package IE gauge/controller and sensor, i have never heard of a Greddy wide-band setup, have you got a link or pic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buster Posted December 10, 2012 Author Share Posted December 10, 2012 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/271086283604?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649 i got it off pulley on the forum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buster Posted December 10, 2012 Author Share Posted December 10, 2012 would a wideband o2 not be used with the e-manage to cotrol the a/f ratio then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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