Lee_e Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 Afternoon all So in the new year around Jan/Feb time my car is going in to SRD for its single conversion .. am hoping for anywhere between 600-700 BHP. My current dilemma is tyres and wheels , Im running 265/30/19 avon ZZ3's on my 19" 10J rears which are great tyres considering their price, Now i know 19" are not the greatest for going single and i understand this completely but i love my Jade R's to bits and would find it hard to part with them unless i had a swap or serious offer. Im prettys sure If i stayed with my current wheels and tyres .. I will be slipping and lighting up the rears in every gear . So my question to you Folk is.. If i stay with my current wheels but went for a slightly chunkier profile tyre for example 265/35/19 .. would i see any benefit on grip or is it a simple case of any 19" wheel will be pants grip ? Any advice is hugely welcomed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesy Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 You want to try and get a 285 or 295 tyre on there dude. And 18" is an ideal size if poss. I had to sell my old wheels which had 265 tyres when i went single as you'd just be lighting up the tyres the whole time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
listy Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 I used to have 295/30/19 n my TT, but they will rub in the stock arches without a roll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee_e Posted November 23, 2012 Author Share Posted November 23, 2012 hmmm .. So would 285's be better J ? and would they fit without rubbing ? I Really dont want to go spending big bucks on wheels but then again I do love Rota wheels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooter Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 personally i'd look at R888 or the Kumho v70 type of performance tyre regardless of size. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesy Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 Prob with the r888 is apart from them being hideously expensive they are a square tyre so give even less clearance You may get away with an inner arch roll, poss a small tug/flare for 295's mate. Mine were fine with 295's and an arch roll Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy442 Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 Profile wont do anything for grip, rubber on the road does. Wider tyres ftw. But like stated above softer compounds also ftw. Look about the forum, see what the big single boys are running. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallis Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 Afternoon all So in the new year around Jan/Feb time my car is going in to SRD for its single conversion .. am hoping for anywhere between 600-700 BHP. My current dilemma is tyres and wheels , Im running 265/30/19 avon ZZ3's on my 19" 10J rears which are great tyres considering their price, Now i know 19" are not the greatest for going single and i understand this completely but i love my Jade R's to bits and would find it hard to part with them unless i had a swap or serious offer. Im prettys sure If i stayed with my current wheels and tyres .. I will be slipping and lighting up the rears in every gear . So my question to you Folk is.. If i stay with my current wheels but went for a slightly chunkier profile tyre for example 265/35/19 .. would i see any benefit on grip or is it a simple case of any 19" wheel will be pants grip ? Any advice is hugely welcomed Man You must have one hell of a stretch on those rears with 265's on your jade r's fella!! I've had a few different wheel and tyre set ups, ranging from 315's to 275's on my single with the jade r's. The falken 452's 275/30/19's, are by far the best tyres I've had so far, 315's being the worst would u believe it. Unfortunately with any single in the wet it's pretty pointless to even attempt to drive hard....lol Your suspension set up is just as important as the tyres when u start chasing the big power, biggest mistake I did was to make the rear set up to hard, for a long time i could wheel spin through into third it was that bad ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee_e Posted November 23, 2012 Author Share Posted November 23, 2012 Prob with the r888 is apart from them being hideously expensive they are a square tyre so give even less clearance You may get away with an inner arch roll, poss a small tug/flare for 295's mate. Mine were fine with 295's and an arch roll I know you had some trouble with Arch enemy who done your arches before your custom work done but what kinda price did you pay for just the rears to be rolled ? I would much prefer to go bigger tyre and arch roll than a new wheel altogether Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee_e Posted November 23, 2012 Author Share Posted November 23, 2012 HAHA I honestly have no idea about tyre stretching etc but i Pretty much just followed on from what the previous owner had put on, As it was all ok i thought why change something that isnt broke You saying that maybe a 275/30 Falken 452 might be a good bet ? im not too bothered about price of tyres so long as it doesnt protrude into the £250 a tyre mark lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallis Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 HAHA I honestly have no idea about tyre stretching etc but i Pretty much just followed on from what the previous owner had put on, As it was all ok i thought why change something that isnt broke You saying that maybe a 275/30 Falken 452 might be a good bet ? im not too bothered about price of tyres so long as it doesnt protrude into the £250 a tyre mark lol Go on camskills and have a look you can usuall pick the falkens up for just over £100 each ( I paid £119 each delivered last time), really cheap and great tyres, everyone I know pretty much runs these now and loves them ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skippyboyo1 Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 HAHA I honestly have no idea about tyre stretching etc but i Pretty much just followed on from what the previous owner had put on, As it was all ok i thought why change something that isnt broke You saying that maybe a 275/30 Falken 452 might be a good bet ? im not too bothered about price of tyres so long as it doesnt protrude into the £250 a tyre mark lol Tyre stretching is like a fat chick squeezing in to a pair of tiny jeans.....total ball ache but the results are worth the stretch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guigsy Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 Tyre stretching is like a fat chick squeezing in to a pair of tiny jeans.....total ball ache but the results are worth the stretchuntill she needs to do anything functional. Like sit down. The poster wants grip. Grip on the road isn't all about surface area. It's only one part of it. More sidewall and therefore more give is a factor. If you stretch a 285/35 on a rim too big you will have less give in the tyre. A 285/35 on a correct size rim will have more. A stretched tyre gives much less grip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesy Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 I know you had some trouble with Arch enemy who done your arches before your custom work done but what kinda price did you pay for just the rears to be rolled ? I would much prefer to go bigger tyre and arch roll than a new wheel altogether Arch enemy only screwed up my flare as i wanted it massive! Just an inner arch roll is about £80 for the rears Just to add i always used to run the fk452's on my fronts and they were good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 What size are your wheels width wise, you shouldn't just go slapping on wider tyres in search of grip. The profile of the tyre will make a difference along with how stiff your set up is with regard to the anti roll bars along with the damper and spring combination The answer isn't just in the tyres, suspension geometry and set up are just as if not more important Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee_e Posted November 24, 2012 Author Share Posted November 24, 2012 Seems I have alot of thinking and debating to do with myself. Soo many factors in getting better grip and being able to put the power down its mind boggling. thanks so far boys been super as usual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tooquicktostop Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 I had 18" wheels and Avon tyres at stock, bpu and single on the current car, I had no grip with the single set up, took advise and went with R888's on my new 19" wheels, grip is miles better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guigsy Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 yep. i went from hks coilovers to stock jspec springs and dampers. that also made a lot of difference to the grip. the rears dont bounce arround over every pot hole and bumps in the road dont make me feel like im going to loose traction any more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
black_widow87 Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 I know Rich7927 on here is running 19" Jade R's on his single with a stretched tyre and it puts down the power very well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brazil Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 I am using R888's 295/30/19 with arch roll and it only scuffs if I have people on the back and go over bumps..! I am lowered on Meister R coilovers. - - - Updated - - - I am using R888's 295/30/19 with arch roll and it only scuffs if I have people on the back and go over bumps..! I am lowered on Meister R coilovers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallis Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 I know Rich7927 on here is running 19" Jade R's on his single with a stretched tyre and it puts down the power very well. As am I fella ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 (edited) I had exactly the same set up on my single, 19" jades with 265 zz3's, i had no issues at all, in fact it was superb for grip, at 570bhp, funnily enough them jades are now on Rich7927's car. I ended up with some 18"s with 285 continentals on and it was utter crap, i could spin the wheels in 4th no bother, compared to 2nd at a struggle with the zz3's. Now that was no doubt down to the tyres, but i certainly wouldn't go swapping down to 18"s just because you're going single, i'd give it a try with the setup you have first. Edited November 24, 2012 by Marty (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee_e Posted November 24, 2012 Author Share Posted November 24, 2012 I had exactly the same set up on my single, 19" jades with 265 zz3's, i had no issues at all, in fact it was superb for grip, at 570bhp, funnily enough them jades are now on Rich7927's car. I ended up with some 18"s with 285 continentals on and it was utter crap, i could spin the wheels in 4th no bother, compared to 2nd at a struggle with the zz3's. Now that was no doubt down to the tyres, but i certainly wouldn't go swapping down to 18"s just because your going single, i'd give it a try with the setup you have first. Dam all of you and your wisdom haha ..I've decided to try new zz3 on the rear as Im currently set up ..then if its bad willtry another route . thanks again folks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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