_Shane_ Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Hi All, My Supra is currently at a garage having some new parts fitted and i received the below invoice the other day. Still the car is not finished and mapping and ecu fitting is not even done yet. I am just wondering if the below charges would be acceptable to you (the owner of the car etc) Remove Apexi Boost controller - £75 (1.5 hours labor) Strip rocker covers / Intake piping / Fan / Coolant / Timing cover / Intake manifold and ancillaries - £225 (4.5 hours labor) Crankbolt overtightened - remove gearbox plate / lock flywheel / loosen bolt and remove pulley / timing belt and tensioner - £200 (4.0 hours labor) Remove standard cams / Fit HKS cams, vernier pulleys and tensioner - £200 (4.0 hours labor) Time engine / Fit belt & covers - £50 (1.0 hour labor) Clean up cam covers and mod fitting strip - £50 (1.0 hour labor) Modify cam covers, measure valve clearances - £75 (1.5 hours labor) Genuine Toyota Timing Belt x 1 - £36.68 Coil pack electrical plugs x 6 - £45.72 Cam shim clearence too tight - Re-remove timing belt / cams / pulleys / buckets. Remove shims and measure. Refits buckets / Cams / Pulleys / Timing Belt / Crank Pulley - £100 (2.0 hours labor) Total Net Amount 881.25 Carriage Net 0.00 Total VAT Amount 176.24 Invoice Total 1,057.49 I gave the garage the following parts HKS 264 cams brand new in the box - fitted Brand new adjustable pulleys - fitted Brand new KU engineering intake manifold and 80mm TB - half fitted, had to machine some washers for the injector seats or something like that and have to modify pipework for fmic Battery relocation - not fitted yet, quoted about 2 hours labor for this, advised that if battery tray was to be welded into space behind rear seats that they would be looking at stripping out rear interior and also danger as right above fuel tank, opting now to just drill through battery tray and bolt it to floor (which in my opinion is perfectly fine, whatever secures the battery im happy with) AEM Ecu and extras - still in box not fitted / mapped Dash2 race dash - still in box The price of the work completed to date has gone over what was given as an estimate, some things above i didnt really accept well as in removing the boost controller and been charged £75 for that. Also been charged for clearance issues with the cams, shouldnt this have been spotted when fitting them in the first place anyway i just want you guys opinion on the charges so far that i have been given Thanks in advance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dim Sum Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 I am sure people will answer your other question soon, but surly "Remove Apexi Boost controller - £75 (1.5 hours labor)" is over priced. Shouldn't take that long to remove the boost controller, i fitted mine quicker than that and i am not a mechanic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjy Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 (edited) Looks like you've just been raped my friend! I own a garage, and that's a piss take! EDIT: Surely removing the timing belt cover is part of the cambelt? And have they not replaced any idlers etc? Edited November 1, 2012 by Benjy (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Shane_ Posted November 1, 2012 Author Share Posted November 1, 2012 keep the comments coming guys, i would like to know peoples feelings on the above especially those in the trade and who own garages themselves I agree i would have removed the boost controller myself, i fitted the poxy thing lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobD Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Seriously over charged, why they're charging you 2-3 times for the same job is crazy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjy Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Seriously over charged, why they're charging you 2-3 times for the same job is crazy! I could be minted by now if I took the piss like that!! And people tell me I'm expensive! I'm gonna show people this thread!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nicholas Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Those prices are ridiculous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littler Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Those prices seem high! I've seen some of the prices for what you have had done by other garages and that it is high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobD Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 hi all, my supra is currently at a garage having some new parts fitted and i received the below invoice the other day. Still the car is not finished and mapping and ecu fitting is not even done yet. I am just wondering if the below charges would be acceptable to you (the owner of the car etc) remove apexi boost controller - £75 (1.5 hours labor) hour, if that! Strip rocker covers / intake piping / fan / coolant / timing cover / intake manifold and ancillaries - £225 (4.5 hours labor) 2 hours or there abouts crankbolt overtightened - remove gearbox plate / lock flywheel / loosen bolt and remove pulley / timing belt and tensioner - £200 (4.0 hours labor) joke! You get 3.5 hours book time to replace a timing belt by toyota!! Remove standard cams / fit hks cams, vernier pulleys and tensioner - £200 (4.0 hours labor) tensioner for what? It's less than an hour to remove cams and refit others without reshim etc! Time engine / fit belt & covers - £50 (1.0 hour labor) half hour, that's with a tea break! Clean up cam covers and mod fitting strip - £50 (1.0 hour labor) mod strip? Modify cam covers, measure valve clearances - £75 (1.5 hours labor) the only reasonable price i can see! Genuine toyota timing belt x 1 - £36.68 good price coil pack electrical plugs x 6 - £45.72 shite price! I paid £30 for a set of 6 that's when i lost a lot of discount when ownership of the dealer swapped over! Cam shim clearence too tight - re-remove timing belt / cams / pulleys / buckets. Remove shims and measure. Refits buckets / cams / pulleys / timing belt / crank pulley - £100 (2.0 hours labor) why is this 2 hours when they quoted previous? And why bolt everything back on before checking cam clearance? Total net amount 881.25 carriage net 0.00 total vat amount 176.24 invoice total 1,057.49 i gave the garage the following parts hks 264 cams brand new in the box - fitted brand new adjustable pulleys - fitted brand new ku engineering intake manifold and 80mm tb - half fitted, had to machine some washers for the injector seats or something like that and have to modify pipework for fmic battery relocation - not fitted yet, quoted about 2 hours labor for this, advised that if battery tray was to be welded into space behind rear seats that they would be looking at stripping out rear interior and also danger as right above fuel tank, opting now to just drill through battery tray and bolt it to floor (which in my opinion is perfectly fine, whatever secures the battery im happy with) aem ecu and extras - still in box not fitted / mapped dash2 race dash - still in box the price of the work completed to date has gone over what was given as an estimate, some things above i didnt really accept well as in removing the boost controller and been charged £75 for that. Also been charged for clearance issues with the cams, shouldnt this have been spotted when fitting them in the first place anyway i just want you guys opinion on the charges so far that i have been given thanks in advance hth! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobD Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 You could've taken you car to lee and still be in pocket with those prices! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
listy Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 (edited) I've done some of that myself. Crank pulley off, new one on - took me 45 minutes Remove boost controller - 15 minutes max (greddy dsbc) Remove intake piping, fan, coolant etc - about 30 minutes. I didn't do the rocker covers though, but they can't take 4 hrs surely. I'm not a mechanic, and I did the crank pulley in a carpark, with a breaker bar and torque wrench on my own. You've been had mate. Edited November 1, 2012 by listy (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobD Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Those prices remind me of a garage around near me, they advertise low hourly rate but take twice as long to do jobs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonR24 Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 I'm amateur at best lol and that is the biggest load of crap iv ever seen. You sent it fitted with the HKS pulleys? And they want 200 for it? Even if that was just fitting it's a rip off. In my eyes they deserve nothing just for having the nerve to charge that.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d_d Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 I dont understand why its all itemised, i think the issue for me is why they do one job and stop doing it like that will take longer no doubt. From what i can see, they have done a cambelt change, fitted new cams with pulleys. a bit excessive yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjy Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 I dont understand why its all itemised, i think the issue for me is why they do one job and stop doing it like that will take longer no doubt. From what i can see, they have done a cambelt change, fitted new cams with pulleys. a bit excessive yes Probably in an attempt to justify the hours spent. Epic fail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonR24 Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Give them a tenner, then the finger, and then trading standards to there doorstep. Or if that fails everyone on the forum lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Shane_ Posted November 1, 2012 Author Share Posted November 1, 2012 Would it be worth it if i tried to pursue this down the legal road guys ? I am truly sorry that i didnt just take the car across the pond to someone on here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skippyboyo1 Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Just screen shot this and what's app'd to my mate who workes for Toyota..... Ill let you know his response Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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d_d Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 think personally id pay half of it, very fair. couldnt you of got a quote before hand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee P Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 I tried to tell you on a previous thread that they didn't know what they were doing with a supra. The front crank pulley bolts are tight and you need the correct tools to do it right. Its a shame you didn't just bring the car to me as originally planed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeG Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 starting to turn out bad mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Shane_ Posted November 1, 2012 Author Share Posted November 1, 2012 ah lads you learn from your mistakes thats all i can say Only thing that turned me off bringing car across the pond Lee was cost of flights and ferries to and from but i know better for next time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt H Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 F me that's a shafting of a bill. Shocking, Shane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy442 Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 I tried to tell you on a previous thread that they didn't know what they were doing with a supra. A few of us said that as well mate :/ As said, those prices are bordering on extortion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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