jjs_82 Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 (edited) I had my NCT today and they failed me on the rear upper wish bone bushes, can bushes be got for these or is it complete arms only from Toyota?. Has any one put Poly Bushes in these arms?? Are they any good?? I was just looking at Superpro front and rear suspension bush kit. Does anyone know if this includes the rear upper arm poly bushes?? Edited October 31, 2012 by jjs_82 (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 (edited) New arms are the way to go but people don't like the cost involved hence they fit poly bushes. They were over £350 + vat each last time checked minus whatever discount you can get Edited November 30, 2012 by Dnk (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjs_82 Posted October 31, 2012 Author Share Posted October 31, 2012 whats the disadvantage of doing poly bushes to arms?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 Chris Wilson said it all earlier today Poly bushes are a pitiful attempt at a repair. the original wishbones have proper spherical bearings with zero compliance in them, for the top rear wishbone inner pivots, to guard against torque steer and unwanted geo changes. Toyota didn't go to that trouble and expense if simple bushes would have done the same job. You need two new rear upperr wishbones from Toyota, or used ones you KNOW have zero play in the bearings. About £330 each i think, from memory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjs_82 Posted November 27, 2012 Author Share Posted November 27, 2012 Had to bite the bullet and get 2 new arms from Toyota, Got them at a very good price of £450 for the 2 . Got them fitted last night and it took me 2 hours. Do these go often on the supras?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian C Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 Yep, all the bushes wear out eventually, and the stiffer your suspension and crappier the roads you drive on, the faster it happens. I got all mine done a few years ago at eye-watering cost, but it transformed the car from tramlining ditchfinder deathtrap into planted fun car again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjs_82 Posted November 27, 2012 Author Share Posted November 27, 2012 Mine wasn't too bad just a small bit of play and it didn't effect the handling of the car but i failed the nct and they demanded i get new ones. They are still eye-watering prices i was just very very lucky cause i have a friend on the inside that can give me a very good discount . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 You had a result if you got the pair for £450 as that's cheaper than cost price to Toyota Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjs_82 Posted November 27, 2012 Author Share Posted November 27, 2012 Yes got the pair at 450. If you ever need a pair sometime let know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 (edited) Yes got the pair at 450. If you ever need a pair sometime let know Did you mug the parts guy at Toyota ? Retail their £450.17 inc vat and trade their £360.14 inc vat each ! Thanks for the offer but i replaced all the arms a little while ago which was quite painful by the time you added in the cost of removing all the old parts, fitting the new and then a full geometry set up. Edited November 30, 2012 by Dnk (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calorus Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 The trade price isn't cost, it's just not retail mark-up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 (edited) I know but its not much less as i've just been chatting to my parts guy Their £900 retail for the pair and the op only paid £450 !! Edited November 30, 2012 by Dnk (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott87 Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 Do poly bushes not reduce the possibility of torque steer by being a much tougher bush? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 Their £900 retail for the pair Blimey! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjs_82 Posted November 30, 2012 Author Share Posted November 30, 2012 Anyone that needs one just let me know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caesard Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 Will let you know soon mate. But the cost is already giving me a heart attack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian C Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 Thanks for the offer but i replaced all the arms a little while ago which was quite painful by the time you added in the cost of removing all the old parts, fitting the new and then a full geometry set up. Wasn't it just, I had the same thing, just the removal amounted to about £500 labour! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 Wasn't it just, I had the same thing, just the removal amounted to about £500 labour! Ouch !! My removal & fitting pain wasn't that bad, my mate who owns the local village garage did me a great deal with me doing probably 25 % of the work on his ramp cost me under £300. We had it all off and the new on in approx 9 hrs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonc Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 Chris Wilson said it all earlier today Poly bushes are a pitiful attempt at a repair. the original wishbones have proper spherical bearings with zero compliance in them, for the top rear wishbone inner pivots, to guard against torque steer and unwanted geo changes. Toyota didn't go to that trouble and expense if simple bushes would have done the same job. Reading with interest as I am going to do all the suspension this winter and then go for a full geo set up:blink:.Having fitted poly bushes to other cars (including Jaguars) I thought poly bushes were a good way to go? I can understand the statement Toyota didn't go to all that trouble etc etc but that was in the early 90's when they were designing the car surely technology has moved on leaps and bounds over the last 20 years with bush materials. I would be interested to know other peoples views as well before I go full out and fit poly bushes. I am not selling the car any time soon so if indeed direct replacement is the best way then I will bite the bullet and replace all the wishbones but I am interested in other peoples views who have re bushed with updated technology. Is this a not sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjs_82 Posted November 30, 2012 Author Share Posted November 30, 2012 Ouch !! My removal & fitting pain wasn't that bad, my mate who owns the local village garage did me a great deal with me doing probably 25 % of the work on his ramp cost me under £300. We had it all off and the new on in approx 9 hrs . Me and a mate done the 2 of them in 2 hours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian C Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 Ouch !! My removal & fitting pain wasn't that bad, my mate who owns the local village garage did me a great deal with me doing probably 25 % of the work on his ramp cost me under £300. We had it all off and the new on in approx 9 hrs My writeup is here: http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?119349-Suspension-refresh-(wishbones-etc)-The-results They had to saw one of the old wishbones up and get a plasma cutter on it, it was that tight in place. They made a loss on the labour as well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brazil Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 I fitted a full polypro bushing on my car along with new Meister R coilover and now I have minimal body roll when I tank it past a round about and sharp corners...! Transformed my car from what it was before. The car is a lot rougher over bumps and shit road because its stiffer, but it is worth for the improvement in handling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 My writeup is here: http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?119349-Suspension-refresh-(wishbones-etc)-The-results They had to saw one of the old wishbones up and get a plasma cutter on it, it was that tight in place. They made a loss on the labour as well! We had similar fun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheefa Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Yep, time for two new rear upper control arms for me PM coming your way John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjs_82 Posted April 9, 2013 Author Share Posted April 9, 2013 Yep, time for two new rear upper control arms for me PM coming your way John You have PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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