Noz Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 Depends where you live and how you drive as well. My friend had a 219bhp 1.3 starlet that was fully, and I mean fully stripped out. Was super quick. He drove it down a cliff, without the cage he definitely would of been mince. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveR Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 Having done it id never put a cage in a car again. Did you have a cage in the red one, or just the black one? I liked the quality and relative subtleness of the install on the black one and was thinking of copying it. I want to do some straight line tope speed stuff one day and wouldn't be comfortable doing massive speeds without full safety gear. As it's not a daily driver I don't mind always wearing a helmet, but ideally I'd have a something I could remove with spanners if I wanted. The MR2 cage (which is MSA race approved) has weld-in feet plates, but the rest of it is bolt in so I could take it in & out if I really wanted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 On a daily driver I personally would not run a cage, too much hassle and you shouldn't be driving in a manor that would require caged protection. on a track car that's a different story, not only for safety but if done properly it stiffens the chassis helping to further improve handling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 I have a cage in mine and I am yet to make it to a track. The cage is padded in all the right places and I have 5 point harnesses and Recaro Pole Position buckets to stop too much movement! I hope you wear a helmet at all times with that setup. If not it's EXTREMELY dangerous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 The biggest problem i had in my fully caged Range Rover was wearing the 4 point harness whilst driving on the road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noz Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 I wouldn't want a full cage, that could cause you some serious harm. A rear cage would be pretty hard to hit I reckon? Unless your tall and sat on it of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 I think what you need to look at is what protection is a rear cage giving you, yes it will help in certain crashes but wont do very much in other crashes regarding where you sit. Draw a line from the top of a rear cage down to the top of the dash and you'll see your head unless you are very short goes above the line, if you have a proper shunt this leaves you very exposed. A rear cage in my opinion is more cosmetic and gives you a false sense of security, if you want protection get a full cage and not one that goes round the dash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parry_10 Posted October 17, 2012 Author Share Posted October 17, 2012 A lot of mixed opinions. I think a half cage is pointless to be honest. If I do get a cage it will be a 6/7 point that goes through the dash pretty much the same one jamie had although I don't want to fit door bars but then having carbon doors I should really (I don't want to change to stock doors). The car is going to be around the 700hp mark and I don't mind wearing harnesses on the road, I also plan on getting some nice race seats anyway. Just don't like the idea of hitting my head but I like the idea of the protection a cage gives and improving on the stiffness of the car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTurtleshead Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 (edited) I sit quite low in my supra. Recaro's and low mount rails, plus quite a relaxed driving position (Short legs, long arms and body! ) Mean that my head is definitely in the safe zone! I saw a rolled aerotop at kerons, made me question my choice of supra/mortality. Plus I drive it quite hard, hence I decided the cage was for me. Edited October 17, 2012 by TheTurtleshead (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 I sit quite low in my supra. Recaro's and low mount rails, plus quite a relaxed driving position (Short legs, long arms and body! ) Mean that my head is definitely in the safe zone! I saw a rolled aerotop at kerons, made me question my choice of supra/mortality. Plus I drive it quite hard, hence I decided the cage was for me. Sit in your car and get someone to take a pic from the side Don't forget that's only a guide, if you have no front cage and around the roof you are in the danger zone no matter how tall you are Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parry_10 Posted October 17, 2012 Author Share Posted October 17, 2012 Its going to cost me around 1k for the cage I want so if it isn't really needed that money can go towards other parts. I'm not building a 700hp car to poodle about in it, its going to be driven like it should be so maybe a cage is a good idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_Mitchell Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 I would go full cage if track/drag racing is involved and if thats what you intend on doing with the car. I very much think its pointless if the car is just used for the street, as any stupid speeds is just breaking the law ect ect bla bla bla. BUT they do serve a purpose and like james i too have seen a rolled supra and its a messy sight! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parry_10 Posted October 17, 2012 Author Share Posted October 17, 2012 Yeh thinking to just get one because as interior is stripped its the perfect time, I would not want to put it all back together then think I want a roll cage. I only intend on doing a few track days and drags but I want to go to the ring as well that is a must for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_Mitchell Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 I would cage it then mate. That gets my vote Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 I'd price up a weld in cage and see how you feel then! Even bolted in cages need substantial amounts of welding doing to fit the mount load spreader plates, so you might as well stiffen the shell at the same time. VERY costly, done right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sideexitsupra Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 I hope you wear a helmet at all times with that setup. If not it's EXTREMELY dangerous. Only if you drive like an a*se on public roads! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noz Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 Only if you drive like an a*se on public roads! Even an old lady giving you a 50mph T Bone cold be dangerous IMO, you could be stationary.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sideexitsupra Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 Far safer than being in a caterham or on a bike in a similar situation I would say. This isn't a daily driver for me and the cage is well padded. We will have to agree to disagree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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