Razak Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 I have been getting some noisy rattling and clunking noises when using the clutch or letting on and off the throttle whilst the clutch is engaged, seems like the likely culprits are either clutch or flywheel, so I'm probably going to replace both. My car is soon to be bpu power (got all the bits just need to sort this problem out first before I fit it) what clutches have people used or known to be good for fast road use, I'm thinking of ditching the dual mass flywheel, I've always known them to be fragile with hard driving and I can live with the rattle of a lightened one, it's not a daily car. Any help would be appreciated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwilkinson Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 Never heard of the dual mass being fragile!? For BPU power I would stick with the stock setup, maybe speak with Chris Wilson who use to do an uprated clutch assembly. The noise could be a failing release bearing. Worth taking a look to make sure you won't be spending money unecessarily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razak Posted September 25, 2012 Author Share Posted September 25, 2012 Well my friend has ruined his Beemer 5 series as well, the OEM replacement is more expensive then a solid lightened one anyway. I have heard worn, old clutches being burnt out pretty quickly by bpu upgrades, and I don't plan on stopping at bpu, so I'm thinking to future proof. I will be dropping the box and investigating before I buy anyway, but when with the clutch fully engaged and letting off the throttle I get the clunking and rocking of the car slightly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 Stock dual mass flywheel and Chris Wilson clutch disc and cover would be what I'd go with at BPU performance levels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 Well my friend has ruined his Beemer 5 series as well, the OEM replacement is more expensive then a solid lightened one anyway. Personally I'd go with stock dual mass flywheel at BPU performance levels, it may be more expensive but it is by far the quietest option. I'd sacrifice the very small performance benefit a lightened flywheel gives you for smooth and quiet everyday. I have heard worn, old clutches being burnt out pretty quickly by bpu upgrades, and I don't plan on stopping at bpu, so I'm thinking to future proof. My advice would be to match the clutch to the power of the car, fitting a clutch rated at much higher hp can make the clutch very noisy grabby and hard to use. A stock flywheel and uprated disc and cover would be the quietest, easiest to use and best option IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razak Posted September 25, 2012 Author Share Posted September 25, 2012 It isn't a daily driver though, weekend use only and single is on the cars for next year or two at latest, I don't mind rattle and noise, it's a fun car not a luxury cruiser for me. I'm asking more about brands and types that people have used and can recommend for quality Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 It isn't a daily driver though, weekend use only and single is on the cars for next year or two at latest, I don't mind rattle and noise, it's a fun car not a luxury cruiser for me. I'm asking more about brands and types that people have used and can recommend for quality In a year or 2 you'll probably need a new clutch anyway. What benefits are you expecting by fitting an aftermarket clutch? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razak Posted September 25, 2012 Author Share Posted September 25, 2012 I've never had a car, even with an aftermarket clutch that will be worn out in 2 years! Especially as I rarely do more then a couple thousand miles a year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a98pmalcolm Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 Rps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwilkinson Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 Well a competition clutch 4 puck plus lightened flywheel will set you back £900, and that's a cheap option. If looking to future proof the clutch your effectively looking at twin or triple place clutches with lightened flywheels. £1500+ for anything half decent which is a lot of money and waste on a BPU Supra. RPS and Competition Clutch stuff will be closer to the £2k bracket. Your choice at the end of the day but I would personally stick with dual mass and uprated clutch assembly. Mine ran BPU for a few years at 408 bhp and never missed a beat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razak Posted September 25, 2012 Author Share Posted September 25, 2012 Well a competition clutch 4 puck plus lightened flywheel will set you back £900, and that's a cheap option. If looking to future proof the clutch your effectively looking at twin or triple place clutches with lightened flywheels. £1500+ for anything half decent which is a lot of money and waste on a BPU Supra. RPS and Competition Clutch stuff will be closer to the £2k bracket. Your choice at the end of the day but I would personally stick with dual mass and uprated clutch assembly. Mine ran BPU for a few years at 408 bhp and never missed a beat. Im not dismissing it by far, im looking for all the infomation i can get. I have been looking around and the Competition Clutch stage 3 seems pretty good, that and a matching flywheel will still cost around £950 but would see me well into a small turbo conversion when it happens. I wouldnt be able to afford a large single for a very long time so im not needing to spend that kind of money. Ive heard alot of good about the CC Stage 4 but having driven my brothers Celica gt4 with a puck clutch i am hesitant to get one for road use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 Whatever you do - dont bother with a southbend clutch - they are useless (not just the clutch, the company too). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a98pmalcolm Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 My advice is not to touch competition clutch with a barge pole... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razak Posted September 25, 2012 Author Share Posted September 25, 2012 My advice is not to touch competition clutch with a barge pole... Could you elaborate on that abit? all ive heard so far is good about their products. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a98pmalcolm Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 (edited) Some of my posts: http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?265654-Bizzar-Clutch-Issue-Any-Ideas http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?267508-Need-Advice-On-What-Clutch-Pulling-My-Hair-Out-A-Little http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?271986-Possible-Legal-Advice-Against-Clutch-Company ^^This was all from when I was BPU^^ And I had a few members PM with the same problems and even some members telling how rubbish they are but I won't go mentioning members names. CC did refund the 2nd clutch and flywheel, but never again. On the 2nd one the material melted and stuck to the flywheel. My mate has a pic at his workshop. Before the 2nd CC clutch went on I had a new master and slave cylinder fitted to make sure it wasn't a problem else were but as you have seen in one of my posts it lasted a month and 1/2. I now have an RPS triple plate and its the nuts, bits nice, grips like a mo fo and and no issues. But there not cheap. From my experience with clutches in Supras get the best. For the people that deal with CC I don't want to try and prevent sales and the dealer that dealt with mine was a great help. But I don't want to see other members have the stress I went through. Don't forget if your clutch goes wrong you are STUCK, like I was with the crappy CC clutches... And there silly stiff! Edited September 25, 2012 by a98pmalcolm (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 Paul whats the RPS triple like For daily driving Rattle on idle Rattle when in 6th gear on low revs biting point / any juddering? pedal feel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razak Posted September 26, 2012 Author Share Posted September 26, 2012 Is there anywhere in the UK that supplies RPS clutches? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a98pmalcolm Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 Imi its a great clutch for a daily runner. Feels like stock once the pedal is set up. Its recomended to have a new master and slave cylinder fitted aswell. It can be a pig to get into reverse but no dramas. Only rattle in minor quite when the clutch is engaged and put into 1st. Thats it :-) Wise choice to look into these razak. Paul at whifbitz has them on his site. Lee at SRD can source them also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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