At what BHP does a Supra become dangerous / not easily driveable as a daily car?

[1JZGTE]

I was browisng the forums, as one does , and noticed that JamieP said about his Supra that it was quite a handful, bordeing om dangerous and that he wouldn't take his little one out in it.

 

I appreciate there are different cars wit diferent setups, drag, street, different maps, TRC etc. but even taking those things into account, after what sort of BHP region does a Supra become a real liability? 500bhp? 600bhp?

 

Just curious what people's thoughts are.

 

[Gaz6002]

An N/A Supra can be a liability with an idiot behind the wheel. My 600bhp one was quite amenable though.

[Pulley]

Very much depends on power delivery in my experience, but with most rwd cars I've had good experience of 650 with good torque is about all I'd want on the road

[Geo]

IMO anything between 600-680 for street use, mapped right and a nice clutch works wonders. As much as i loved my single i hated it also.

[mihai]

for example my 470 hp single it is realy dangerous on rain because the turbo lag is big and kicks hard at 3500-3700 rpm, with dry tarmac is not a problem! The manual gearbox is more dangerous than the automatic one.

 

the weekest part of the car can be the driver !

Edited September 10, 2012 by mihai (see edit history)

[AJI]

I'd have to say that its not about how much power the car has but purly the way its driven when it comes to deeming if a powerful Supra is safe or not on the public roads.

 

When you say a 500bhp or 600bhp Supra this implies that on the public roads you are on full power giving it max.

A driver doing this in some public situations would become a 'real liability'. However there are situations whereby on a public road one may open up the full potential whereby you only put yourself at risk.

 

Basically I think I'm trying to say that the question can not be answered as you've put it, as it involves too many situational variables. And a large weighting on driver in terms of awareness, skill etc. etc.

[Wez]

for example my 470 hp single it is realy dangerous on rain because the turbo lag is big and kicks hard at 3500-3700 rpm, with dry tarmac is not a problem! The manual gearbox is more dangerous than the automatic one.

 

Thats all backwards isnt it?

 

Autos are by far more tricky with big power, unless running in manual mode you certainly don't want 600hp changing gear mid corner.

 

Plus you have 470hp and big lag, what turbo are you running, also kicking hard at 3500 doesn't sound that laggy

[Supra Gaz]

Depends how good a driver you are.

[TubbyTwo]

Some folks struggle with 200hp lol

[tony tt]

Bpu can be dangerous if there's a muppet attached to it. All depends on the pilot really.

[johnny g]

Too many factors!

Power delivery?

Suspension setup?

Tyre setup/condition?

[Dan_Turism0]

i think a better question is at what power does a supra become realistically unusable for street use

[tkddav3]

i used to run mine everyday for a few months until i saved up enough wonga for a daily driver, mines running 581hp and for those few months had no choice but to drive it in typical british weather, had no problems tbh...mainly as i didnt drive it like an utter nob only problem....wallet was getting lighter!

[johnny g]

That's the thing. If you have 600-700-800 or more bhp, then you don't have to use it.

 

Many times I drove to the g/f's house, and I never boosted more than 0.2/0.3bar because conditions didn't allow.

[Chris Bailey]

This video may help you out

 

 

Its been posted a few times but a great video and will answer your question

[Noz]

I think power delivery and car control is much more important than how much power. poor power delivery with low power would cause more problems than a decent LSD with a big single. I have no LSD and dont have a huge amount of power compared to some and have had issues.

[Thorin]

Those of you saying the car is too dangerous to drive on the road, I'm assuming you've fitted the digital on/off accelerator mod?

[Jarek]

More is better in my humble opinion.

[Chris Bailey]

More is better in my humble opinion.

 

Try saying that when your driving a 1000+bhp car on the road, I've heard its horrible.

 

Even Jamie P said he prefered his supra when it was at 700bhp.

[Jamesy]

My auto was waaaay more dangerous than my current manual set up.

 

Id never ever have a big bhp car again in auto format.

[1JZGTE]

Thanks guys, the video was interesting, as were the comments on big power + auto box combo.

[DaveR]

Interesting video. Not seen that before.

[listy]

I have always said I wouldnt go for more than 550-650 bhp for a street car.

Not necessarily because it is dangerous, but more the fact that you realistically wouldnt really be able to use any more than that on the road to its potential, and I'm sure it wouldn't be too comfortable.

Edited September 10, 2012 by listy (see edit history)

[sdistc]

The biggest factor in safety is the nut loose behind the steering wheel.

1000 horsepower can be safe, but not necessarily that pleasant or streetable (in terms of parking up at Waitrose, or being stuck in traffic, for example).

[teddan]

,,

600bhp is boring, 800 is nice, 1000+ is crazy and will try to kill you.