ManwithSupra Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 (edited) Now this is my opinion - Surely the Supra is more fun to drive...It’s a pretty basic car. Don’t get me wrong the new GTR is an amazing piece of machinery and technology and fair play to those who have moved on and got one, you are not going to be disappointed with it... it is clearly amazing and far more useable than the Supra.. and IMO comparing the two is like comparing Meat and Veg there are no real similarities other the fact they are both a car (like meat and veg are food). But consider this...It’s a sunny day you are hurtling into a corner either on a track or country road...what gives you more sense of achievement and therefore excitement? Grappling with a Supra on hard braking before turn in, feathering the throttle and making split second direction changes on the wheel when going through the bend, then to hammer the throttle whilst controlling the weight shift with the wheel on the way out of a corner. Or Turn in with a slight sense of excitement, letting the ECU handle the immense number of driver aids, and then hammering the throttle only for the ECU to tell you "nah... I will decide on what to do", yes you are probably quicker than the Supra but what leaves you with more sense of self achievement? Obviously this now can be changed with the likes of Ryan developing Syvecs ECU for the GTR you can claw back that excitement, more power, change the Traction control settings etc. But with a bog standard GTR on a track or country road I would take a Supra over it, it’s just more fun and surely that’s 50% of driving a fast car (some people it’s more).. You want to drive the car… Not be driven by it. This is my opinion though... You see I prefer Man vs Machine rather than Man vs Computer. Edited August 22, 2012 by ManwithSupra (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downimpact Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 I suspect in terms of running costs the Supra would be consideraby cheaper as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 Now this is my opinion - Surely the Supra is more fun to drive...It’s a pretty basic car. Don’t get me wrong the new GTR is an amazing piece of machinery and technology and fair play to those who have moved on and got one, you are not going to be disappointed with it... it is clearly amazing and far more useable than the Supra.. and IMO comparing the two is like comparing Meat and Veg there are no real similarities other the fact they are both a car (like meat and veg are food). But consider this...It’s a sunny day you are hurtling into a corner either on a track or country road...what gives you more sense of achievement and therefore excitement? Grappling with a Supra on hard braking before turn in, feathering the throttle and making split second direction changes on the wheel when going through the bend, then to hammer the throttle whilst controlling the weight shift with the wheel on the way out of a corner. Or Turn in with a slight sense of excitement, letting the ECU handle the immense number of driver aids, and then hammering the throttle only for the ECU to tell you "nah... I will decide how much power to put down", yes you are probably quicker than the Supra but what leaves you with more sense of self achievement? Obviously this now can be changed with the likes of Ryan developing Syvecs ECU for the GTR you can claw back some of that excitement, more power, change the Traction control settings etc. But with a bog standard GTR on a track or country road I would take a Supra over it, it’s just more fun and surely that’s 50% of driving a fast car (some people it’s more).. You want to drive the car… Not be driven by it. This is my opinion though... You see I prefer Man vs Machine rather than Man vs Computer. Have you ever driven a R35 GTR? my guess is no, GTR's are amazing fun to drive and you can hang the tail out as much as you want, plenty of videos about on the net. Supras are good fun, but imho you cant compare the two, a R35 GTR is 20 years ahead of the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batmax Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 (edited) Now this is my opinion - Surely the Supra is more fun to drive...It’s a pretty basic car. Don’t get me wrong the new GTR is an amazing piece of machinery and technology and fair play to those who have moved on and got one, you are not going to be disappointed with it... it is clearly amazing and far more useable than the Supra.. and IMO comparing the two is like comparing Meat and Veg there are no real similarities other the fact they are both a car (like meat and veg are food). But consider this...It’s a sunny day you are hurtling into a corner either on a track or country road...what gives you more sense of achievement and therefore excitement? Grappling with a Supra on hard braking before turn in, feathering the throttle and making split second direction changes on the wheel when going through the bend, then to hammer the throttle whilst controlling the weight shift with the wheel on the way out of a corner. Or Turn in with a slight sense of excitement, letting the ECU handle the immense number of driver aids, and then hammering the throttle only for the ECU to tell you "nah... I will decide on what to do", yes you are probably quicker than the Supra but what leaves you with more sense of self achievement? Obviously this now can be changed with the likes of Ryan developing Syvecs ECU for the GTR you can claw back that excitement, more power, change the Traction control settings etc. But with a bog standard GTR on a track or country road I would take a Supra over it, it’s just more fun and surely that’s 50% of driving a fast car (some people it’s more).. You want to drive the car… Not be driven by it. This is my opinion though... You see I prefer Man vs Machine rather than Man vs Computer. I agreed with you and these video should help showing what you are saying : [video=youtube;omG5OZfFrDY?fs]http://www.youtube.com/embed/omG5OZfFrDY?fs Edited August 22, 2012 by Batmax (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havard Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 If you like more fun imo I like a lot of manual cars, you have the Porsche 911 Turbo(997) Manual is very funny to drive. http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa241/BatmaxPT/Temp/997-turbo-360-forged-wheels.jpg This is what I am going for but you won't pick one up for less than £40K. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 imho you cant compare the two This! I don't understand why people are trying to compare the two in the first place! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 This! I don't understand why people are trying to compare the two in the first place! Because the guy asked which would be better for his £30k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 Woops Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havard Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 Because the guy asked which would be better for his £30k Can you get one for £30K? Looking at PH there are none for that money. The cheapest ones are decent mileages aswell. Best of the lot looked like one with 16k miles for £36K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 Because the guy asked which would be better for his £30k Not sure what country the OP is in, In the UK you wont get a decent R35 for £30,000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManwithSupra Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 (edited) Have you ever driven a R35 GTR? my guess is no, GTR's are amazing fun to drive and you can hang the tail out as much as you want, plenty of videos about on the net. Supras are good fun, but imho you cant compare the two, a R35 GTR is 20 years ahead of the game. I havent driven one hard no, only a demonstrator.. I am sure that GTR's are fun to drive hard but I am not talking about hanging the tail out. I am talking about going around a corner fast. When you have done all the hard work in my opinion is far more fun and rewarding then letting a computer do it. And I agree you cannot compare the two, like I said Its like comparing Meat and Veg the only comparison is that they both are a car. The GTR is years ahead of the Supra... there is no comparison. I was not knocking the GTR's abilites I am just saying what I prefer. Still I am waiting in bated breath to find out what you are doing in yours Edited August 22, 2012 by ManwithSupra (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny g Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 Not sure what country the OP is in, In the UK you wont get a decent R35 for £30,000. Agreed. £30k might get you a JDM import - but realistically, you're looking at £37k for an 09 plate UK car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 Can you get one for £30K? Looking at PH there are none for that money. The cheapest ones are decent mileages aswell. Best of the lot looked like one with 16k miles for £36K Not sure what country the OP is in, In the UK you wont get a decent R35 for £30,000. Well, he said 30,000 euros, but still. Maybe he's speculating. I don't know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 Give it another year and I wouldn't be surprised if they drop to around 30k. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny g Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 Give it another year and I wouldn't be surprised if they drop to around 30k. With the new GT-R's going up in value, I think the residuals will be rather interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 With the new GT-R's going up in value, I think the residuals will be rather crippling. Fixed that for you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny g Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 fixed that for you lolocaust Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batmax Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 This is what I am going for but you won't pick one up for less than £40K. Here in my country you can get one for the double thank uk lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedrosixfour Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 (edited) Well, he said 30,000 euros, but still. Maybe he's speculating. I don't know. A Supra or GTR for €30,000?? I can't even get a cup of tea for that. (I know thats not what the OP is implying, but still..) Edited August 22, 2012 by pedrosixfour (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex2jz Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 Supra TT 6spd, all day long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havard Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 Here in my country you can get one for the double thank uk lol Are you saying that a LHD 2006 997TT is still £80K in Portugal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 If you take into account that not everyone can do work to there own cars or happen to know a specialist that lives within sensible range then they end up having maintenance done at Nissan and they don't use lubricant! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havard Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 If you take into account that not everyone can do work to there own cars or happen to know a specialist that lives within sensible range then they end up having maintenance done at Nissan and they don't use lubricant! No oil in the cars or dry bumming at the service desk? For £30K I would have this..!! http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3979468.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny g Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 If you take into account that not everyone can do work to there own cars or happen to know a specialist that lives within sensible range then they end up having maintenance done at Nissan and they don't use lubricant! The independants are pretty decent now... ish! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 dry bumming at the service desk? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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