Kopite Posted August 10, 2005 Share Posted August 10, 2005 So drinkin laws might be relaxed, what's everyone's opinions on this? Personally if it's pubs and bars opening to 2a.m. then it's not that bad as long as managers boot people out if they're gettin trolleyed. if it's 24 hour openin, then i think it's a crazy idea! if i have my "sensible" hat on, i'd say that people drink too much already and the whole thing was a bad idea Anyone got an opinion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
how_supra Posted August 10, 2005 Share Posted August 10, 2005 They have long opening times in Scotland already don't they. I'm like you though, I can't decide. But if you think that clubs are open to unearthly hours and they still sell alcohol. I don't see the link between happy hour encouraging binge drinking though, as most pubs have happy hours all night, so that's a stupid reason to open the pubs up for longer. Only time will really tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopite Posted August 10, 2005 Author Share Posted August 10, 2005 Scotland's had longer openin hours for ages, don't think there's any bigger problems there though. Some people who finish work and drink loads in a short time might prefer longer hours because they can take it easier. Others (pisheads) will just keep drinkin and drinkin and end up dying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulfurn Posted August 10, 2005 Share Posted August 10, 2005 Thing is, its not you or I that we should worry about. Its the brainless bastards who go out, get volleyed, then think they go 10 rounds with every person that walks past, proving that they cant really handle their ale. But then I guess the argument would be why persucute everyone for the actions of a small miniority? Unforutnately, IMHO I think softening the laws would mean an increase in neanderthals like that who go round looking for trouble when theyre tanked up. But then again I may be totally wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitesupraboy2 Posted August 10, 2005 Share Posted August 10, 2005 i think in bmth it gonna work well, not much trouble, you get odd occasion but nothing drastic! if you live up north forget it...saturday night is fight night....literally up there!!! dont go near middlesborough or liverpool...thats all im saying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopite Posted August 10, 2005 Author Share Posted August 10, 2005 Thing is, its not you or I that we should worry about. Its the brainless bastards who go out, get volleyed, then think they go 10 rounds with every person that walks past, proving that they cant really handle their ale. But then I guess the argument would be why persucute everyone for the actions of a small miniority? Unforutnately, IMHO I think softening the laws would mean an increase in neanderthals like that who go round looking for trouble when theyre tanked up. But then again I may be totally wrong totally agree with that mate. But on the other hand, there's been many a time when i've been the pub after work, get there at 8ish say (after gettin tea out the way) and they it's only 2.5 hours until last orders, can't really enjoy your drink because you'd only end up havin 2 or 3. If the pub was open til 2, can stay til midnight-ish and have a better & more relaxed night. Scallies & alcoholics will always take the pish though so that's why i think it's a dodgy idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbeh Posted August 10, 2005 Share Posted August 10, 2005 They have extended drinking hours in the US and theres not really a much of a problem... but they dont let the kids drink at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARTIN R Posted August 10, 2005 Share Posted August 10, 2005 Not sure, but feel it will lead to more problems rather than peace and harmony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivan Posted August 10, 2005 Share Posted August 10, 2005 At the moment, at least you know that all the pissheads are going to stop trawling back home by about midnight and you can finally get some shuteye. If everywhere's open till gawd-knows-when, they could be puking on your garden wall at all hours! Bad idea IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted August 10, 2005 Share Posted August 10, 2005 It'll be better. Most will be ready to go home at their own pace, so less trouble on the streets. I can't see people driving more because of it..maybe just take their time. It all depends on the maturity of the target audience I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARTIN R Posted August 10, 2005 Share Posted August 10, 2005 I cant see the same problems on broad street Birmingham at 5am compared with say 1am, but I still reckon it will lead to more arrests and further anti social behaviour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chrispee Posted August 10, 2005 Share Posted August 10, 2005 i think longer drinking hours means people will be coming out of clubs/pubs at different times so less hassel-in my home town the old folk were all against a club but there seems less hassel now there is one than when everyone got kicked out at the same time, my 2ps worth,+agree with raising the drinking age like the US, over there for 4th july on the beer as much as we could and saw no hassel- dont think i've ever been out 6nights on the trot back in the uk without some pissed up 17yr old wanting a go! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul -C- Posted August 10, 2005 Share Posted August 10, 2005 Pubs up here in Glasgow are open till midnight or 1am. Clubs are open till 3am. Those are still way too early IMO I think changing to a more European style will be much better, since you won't have the huge number of drunk people on the street at the same kicking out time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitelightning Posted August 10, 2005 Share Posted August 10, 2005 Should drinking laws be laxed ? No - I always drive wonky when pissed so its not a good idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jspec Germany Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 i think longer drinking hours means people will be coming out of clubs/pubs at different times so less hassel-in my home town the old folk were all against a club but there seems less hassel now there is one than when everyone got kicked out at the same time, my 2ps worth,+agree with raising the drinking age like the US, over there for 4th july on the beer as much as we could and saw no hassel- dont think i've ever been out 6nights on the trot back in the uk without some pissed up 17yr old wanting a go! Chrispee, rogue, and bobbeh all make good points. In the U.S., every state has different laws, but most of them involve a closing time of between 1 and 3 a.m. Only problem with that is, as mentioned, then you have all these loaded people leaving at one time. I like the way it works in Vegas and many other cities. There are after-hours clubs that open at like midnight and close between 6 and 8 a.m. If you close the pub at 11 or 12 p.m., the drinkers of the crowd will be slamming drinks to get desired effect, that makes for problems. If there's more time, you can slow your roll and there's no rush. I believe this reduces the amount of drunks out there. Just some lessons learned from living in Oklahoma City for three years where they're a bit more controlling with alcohol and bars. I'm all for freedoms and letting people chose for themselves. I don't need the government to protect me from myself. You might say I believe in "the big-boy approach". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chrispee Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 agree,but the big-boy approach only works on adults-not saying i dont get blind drunk i do, i just dont harrass anyone that is with me already!!-thats why the drinking age should be raised Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 I think people will still get just as pissed, just not all at the same time and without so many fights. I've seen so much trouble because of the rush to get pissed before closing, necking drinks, trouble starting because people can't get served... Then everyone piles out in a mood and when they can't get a kebab quick enough, or a taxi, things get ugly.... In Holland the pubs are open until 2am and the clubs (where I am) until 4am and things are so much more relaxed, I love it. I've never seen a fight, but then people have a different attitude to drinking here. While people still get drunk it's not usually in their nature to look for a fight, they just seem to like making a lot of noise and breaking stuff. Always seems to be outside *my* apartment window though !! There's talk here of letting pubs open 24hr's which in a way I hope they don't do. I'm the kind of person that after a few won't leave unless asked, or told Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chiefvinso Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 People dont just work 9-5 they work shifts too. It should be more relaxed and IMO I dont think that it would lead to problems I think it would ease. My reasoning is that the typical brits know that they are on a timescale and get totally oblitterated asap and then you get those who want to mince it up as they have fighting fluid inside them. Over time it would settle down and you would get the groups who come and go and their own times. I lived in Chicago and I never once saw trouble and this age thing is hard to enforce as there were plenty of under 21's getting served out there. If you have to be 21 to drink, then maybe you should be 21 to drive or even older as your actions behind a wheel can be much worse than sleeping in a corner on your way home one night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGav Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 Don't drink, don't care..... At the end of the day, isn't going to stop people... People may drink slightly slower since they don't have to cram it all in before 11pm or whatever the time is... Sod it, legalize cannabis as well, at least potheads don't cause too many fights... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopite Posted August 11, 2005 Author Share Posted August 11, 2005 legalize cannabis as well, at least potheads don't cause too many fights... i don't smoke anythin but that's very true! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGav Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 As crazy as it may sound... Bunch of people drinking, usually ends up in fighting because alcohol seems to promote aggression.... HOWEVER if you look at a bunch of stoners, they are either out of it, or they are so busy giggling and having the munchies they can't be arsed to fight... Gav Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopite Posted August 11, 2005 Author Share Posted August 11, 2005 my uni housemates were a prime example of that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chiefvinso Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 Still stick a pothead behind the wheel and crash and you will get "yeah, its ok maaaan" off topic I know. There are lots of things that could be legalised that we might think would help society but we are just mere puppets being surpressed by laws and government and as Brits we tend to just put up with it. But one persons disagreement about a law is another persons agreement that it should be there - each to their own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopite Posted August 11, 2005 Author Share Posted August 11, 2005 I'm always into the "each to their own" thing, but this is gonna be a new law so it affects everyone in one way or another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGav Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 Chief, I am certainly not advocating driving under the influence of ANYTHING, alcohol, drugs anything, I do agree with you on that, I do however agree with the rest of your comments entirely.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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