Guest ugp Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 i didnt load it up bud, Mount has been changed New OEM one, car is at a Garage local to me who deal with loads of Jap cars. I'll go with what lee said, and the new flywheel, if need be if it needs to come back out so be it. Fair enough. There isn't much left to change then. Hope for your sanity's sake it's the flywheel! BTW, box of shiz wrapped up and ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige-rz Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Watching this with interest Geo. I've had an identical noise since I've had the car. I just put up with it, I've an aftermarket clutch and just always assumed it had a lightened noisy flywheel. Would love o fix the noise, makes the car sound like scrap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geo Posted October 22, 2012 Author Share Posted October 22, 2012 Watching this with interest Geo. I've had an identical noise since I've had the car. I just put up with it, I've an aftermarket clutch and just always assumed it had a lightened noisy flywheel. Would love o fix the noise, makes the car sound like scrap. TBH mate, i think most people think that the noise is ment to be there, its not. The car should rive like any other, without the nosie. Im on it, at the end of this quest i'll have found the culprit to what is causing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurgen-Jm-Imports Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 geo i have a box out and will check pressure plate for movement tomorrow am also keen on this mate to see what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geo Posted October 22, 2012 Author Share Posted October 22, 2012 geo i have a box out and will check pressure plate for movement tomorrow am also keen on this mate to see what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBDevelopments Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 anyone know what the power rating on the dual mass flywheel is? because its got a dampening effect and moving parts inside there has to be some kind of rating? also something that will make you sick, was at my local gearbox place today picking up some parts for a customer and we got talking about supras. i was asking if there was any issues with the getrag boxes and he commented they never go wrong, and that he actually had 12 brand new boxes that were given to him from a local dealership that went bust, and the sickening thing is he weighed them in for scrap last year because they'd been there for a few years without any need to ever use them for parts or had a customer asking for them Anyway sorry to go off topic, good luck with the cure. Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurgen-Jm-Imports Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 anyone know what the power rating on the dual mass flywheel is? because its got a dampening effect and moving parts inside there has to be some kind of rating? also something that will make you sick, was at my local gearbox place today picking up some parts for a customer and we got talking about supras. i was asking if there was any issues with the getrag boxes and he commented they never go wrong, and that he actually had 12 brand new boxes that were given to him from a local dealership that went bust, and the sickening thing is he weighed them in for scrap last year because they'd been there for a few years without any need to ever use them for parts or had a customer asking for them Anyway sorry to go off topic, good luck with the cure. Tim 12x3k ;( pressure plate is normal as per geos video.. hoping the flywheel cures the noise infact 99% it will now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBDevelopments Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 yeah i told him they were worth at least a few thou each, think he started to regret weighing them in for scrap value which i'm guessing netted a few hundred Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supe Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 (edited) I changed my clutch about a month ago and can't remember there being that much play in the throwout bearing/hub! My old clutch is lying somewhere in my friends shed... I can check and have a look for you tomorrow, if Jurgen doesn't get the chance? It may also not be the pressure plate at fault... Are all the C-Clips in place with that hub? (There are 3 or four of them, could be that one is missing...). Hope you get it sorted Edited October 23, 2012 by Supe (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 So we pulled the gearbox today, and we found there was some slight play in the flywheel. We looked closer and on inspection of the Pressure plate, we found this, see video. Is this too much play in the pressure plate??? I dont wana chuck in the new flywheel, as it might need to come back out for a new pressure plate, so i need someone to confirm the amount of play?? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsjXtNr9sZM That looks normal, as I said on the phone, new pilot bearing in the back of the crank, new pressure plate, new clutch release bearing, check flywheel dual mass movement against shop manual specs, and check all washers either side of release bearing are correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 listen to this one mate http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kYgMUidk5w To me that doesn't sound anything like a clutch or flywheel issue. More engine or gearbox of diff mount. So hard to tell of a YouTube video though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian W Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Would an engine mount not show up when on / off throttle without changing gear? I *think* Geo's problem is only evident when changing gear? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ugp Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Would an engine mount not show up when on / off throttle without changing gear? I *think* Geo's problem is only evident when changing gear? Maybe, but not the diff mounts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 It's all but impossible to diagnose via a video, I would need to drive it and get a feel for what's going on. I am sure it must be pretty easy to find out what it is, with a bit of the old appliance of science Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geo Posted October 24, 2012 Author Share Posted October 24, 2012 another video and pics coming up chris, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geo Posted October 24, 2012 Author Share Posted October 24, 2012 Right went over to help the guys install my box, but as we were installing it, we noticed this when we put the fork back into the box, is this too much play for the fork? we also noticed where the fork sits in its bracket(pics below) its pretty worn. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2B71D7hx9o http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_zbZCy9Q1E Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ugp Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Does it move that much once it's clipped onto the release bearing? Edit That is more like the noise you're trying to find though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian W Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Love the commentary along with video 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geo Posted October 24, 2012 Author Share Posted October 24, 2012 Does it move that much once it's clipped onto the release bearing? top video is with the clutch installed and clipped into play bud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony tt Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Ouft got to laugh at Gaz and his technical terms lol. Hope it gets sorted mate what a bitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ugp Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 top video is with the clutch installed and clipped into play bud. Didn't see that one, pissed and half asleep, apologies. Again, out of the few clutches I've changed on these, I don't recall any having that much movement, they usually fit very snug. Without hearing it in person, I would have the wager put on that being the noise your hearing. From watching the first video it's more in time with you operating the clutch than actually changing gear. Awaiting Mr W's thoughts though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurgen-Jm-Imports Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 (edited) the pressure plate movement is normal - we checked here vs another one. for the fork its on a pin and circlip so not much to wear. (as seen on pic) the only thing that can be worn is the hole were pin goes.. i can check 1st thing in morning here to comfirm.. or its case of swapping holder were pin goes or sleeving it so less movement. or machine bigger pin to suit hole - 5 min job on lathe.. (but hold on until i call you in morning) Edited October 24, 2012 by Jurgen-Jm-Imports (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geo Posted October 25, 2012 Author Share Posted October 25, 2012 (edited) Right in an Attempt at solving this problem i've ordered the following Pin(for clutch release fork) 90249-12044 Release Support fork spring 31234-14020 Release Fork Support 31236-14030 Chris Wilson - Rear gearbox Seal, this one is leaking over my new Mount. All these parts will be installed with a new flywheel, so fingers crossed it fixes the problem ??? Edited October 25, 2012 by Geo (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geo Posted October 25, 2012 Author Share Posted October 25, 2012 Some BPU parts arrived today, Chris Wilson 1.2RR and Gasgets and a HKS FCD But before we go BPU the rattle needs fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 Second video looks a bit iffy, but maybe normal, the bearing also locates the arm and it all needs to self centre and waggle about a bit. Compare with another one? I am pulling an engine next week, will have a look at the box in that, but possibly quite normal... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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