dan294 Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 What kit is that nic?? You made that up from buying parts individually ? - - - Updated - - - What turbo is that?? Not sure sorry mate, I looked at this kit for myself a while back. Never bothered doing anything though. Might be worth emailing them, they do a few "cheaper" kits. Not sure what they're like though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 Not sure sorry mate, I looked at this kit for myself a while back. Never bothered doing anything though. Might be worth emailing them, they do a few "cheaper" kits. Not sure what they're like though. I think the PHR street kit uses a T60/1 turbo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supra N_A Posted August 2, 2012 Author Share Posted August 2, 2012 Ideas on getting a cast iron mani from?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_Mitchell Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 PHR street KIT is a nice setup. very good price too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supra N_A Posted August 2, 2012 Author Share Posted August 2, 2012 PHR street KIT is a nice setup. very good price too In that link?? Why doesn't it say what turbo it is.. If its the t61 then that's ideal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 Ideas on getting a cast iron mani from?? Have a chat with dandan or Wez they're both running cast manifolds and have done quite a bit of research into the different ones on the market. http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?194439-Dan-s-Supra-Project&highlight=cast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 T76 is WAY too big for an NA-T. You need to keep the boost down, and that won't get going till it's too late. GTX35R would be better, fast response. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noz Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 he isn't looking for an NA-T kit. and with a lowered compression theres no reason an NA couldn't use a T76, the current XS T61 has almost identical inducer wheel dimensions as the T70 so it's not that far off for usual na.t turbo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxluc Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 I would stay away from ebay turbo kits. You get what you pay for ... not a lot. Do it once, and do it right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sideexitsupra Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 PHR street kit is $3695. The interbank exchange rate today is 1.55 which means you will probably get 1.5. That makes this kit £2463. Say shipping is $200 (minimum) that is another £133. So we are at £2596. You will probably get away with just paying VAT so you are now at £3115.20. Not sure what the exact duty rate is for these parts but will be at least 2%. That would take it to £3167. Ok, so this is £800 less than the cheapest complete Whifbitz kit, but I know which one I would buy. I hate to think what the aftersales service would be like if bought in the US, shipping parts back there for inspection and shipping replacements or repairs back to the UK afterwards. The £800 saving could disappear very, very quickly! But each to their own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guigsy Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 Yeah. You could even get whiffin to build it for you. Then the garage won't complain about bits not fitting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc_p Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 PHR street KIT is a nice setup. very good price too My only issue withn the street kit is that if you wanted more power it basically involves removing the kit and starting again with a stainless tubular manifold system, if you believe that the power output of the street kit is going to be the most you want then it may be a kit worth looking at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxluc Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 Then, I would go for the Stage 1 kit. It come with the HKS manifold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hodge Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 (edited) I put my kit together seperately. And saved a fortune if you can be bothered with the hassle of looking for parts. BUT, make sure you buy quality parts. I've been down the eBay kit route and almost everything but the turbo either had to be modded, repaired or replaced within 3 months. I'm now running a:- GT42-76 turbo (I sourced from the US forum) Whiffbitzs single gate manifold, which I modded to fit my turbo (bonnet wouldnt shut lol) Tial 44mm wastegate I bought from Jamie. Made the downpipe, Made the midpipe Made all the oil lines, I've done about 3K in the car since the conversion and most of those miles have been pretty much flat out every chance I got and all the consonants above are still like new. I don't know how much a kit of that spec would have cost, but to my reckoning I've saved about 2-3 grand buying individual parts. Odviously I also saved on labour too. If you don't do it yourself most tuners charge 1500-2k to do a single build depending on fabrication needs etc. Edited August 2, 2012 by hodge (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 My only issue withn the street kit is that if you wanted more power it basically involves removing the kit and starting again with a stainless tubular manifold system, if you believe that the power output of the street kit is going to be the most you want then it may be a kit worth looking at. A cast manifold should be good for 600+hp with a bigger turbo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supra N_A Posted August 2, 2012 Author Share Posted August 2, 2012 what about this cast iron? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1993-1994-1995-1996-TOYOTA-SUPRA-2JZGTE-T4-CAST-IRON-TURBO-MANIFOLD-/251120007014?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3a77eb3766#ht_3701wt_1037 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_Mitchell Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 How much have you budget'd for mate? then it will give us a idea on the route to take, also whats your power goal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supra N_A Posted August 2, 2012 Author Share Posted August 2, 2012 How much have you budget'd for mate? then it will give us a idea on the route to take, also whats your power goal? budget is not to much of a issue tbh but do not want to be spending like 10k in one.. so bit by bit.. liking the idea of the cast iron manifold just seeing what is available! power goal 500 bhp would be well pleased with or more.. thing is want to keep the autobox.. is yours auto still?? upgraded the box? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_Mitchell Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 budget is not to much of a issue tbh but do not want to be spending like 10k in one.. so bit by bit.. liking the idea of the cast iron manifold just seeing what is available! power goal 500 bhp would be well pleased with or more.. thing is want to keep the autobox.. is yours auto still?? upgraded the box? Yeah im running stock auto box mate, first on your list is 2 SRD gearbox coolers then. I wouldnt go cast manifold unless going for the street kit. Just buy a decent make in manifold ie- hks or garage whiffbitz twin gate. Ill post my spec up and you can use it to help you, perhaps tick things off the list as you get them. Im running a forged engine too though. Im going built titan box next year and bigger turbo myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandan Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 My only issue withn the street kit is that if you wanted more power it basically involves removing the kit and starting again with a stainless tubular manifold system, if you believe that the power output of the street kit is going to be the most you want then it may be a kit worth looking at. What power do you think a cast manifold starts to lose out to a tubular and what would you base that on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_Mitchell Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 Engine Specifications: § JE Pistons § ARP Rods Bolts § ACL Race Bearings § ARP Head Stud Kit § BoostLogic Crank pulley § SRD Custom Cam Breather System § Gates Racing Timing Belt § Gates Racing Serpentine Belt § Lexan sparkplug cover § Whifbitz Custom pulley set with engraving § Whifbitz Custom Idler Pulley with engraving § TRD Thermostat § SRD Twin Fan kit § SRD Radiator § SRD Custom Overflow tank § Greddy 1.3bar radiator cap § SRD Oil Cooler kit § SRD Twin Gearbox Cooler kit § Mishimoto radiator hose § SRD Custom lower water neck Turbocharger & Induction: § BW bullseye Power S362 Turbo § Whifbitz Twin wastegated manifold § Twin 44mm Tial MVR wastegates § SRD Custom Twin Screamer pipes § Custom chrome Exhaust housing Blanket § Polished Turbo Compressor Housing § SRD Custom Intercooler § HKS Racing BOV § Polished Greddy manifold § Polished/chromed Q45 Throttle Body § Greddy Intercooler pipe work § SRD Custom Intercooler pipe work Fuel, Tuning & ECU: § Bosch 044 fuel pump § Sard 800cc drop-in injectors § DAW custom fuel rail cover § Stock FPR § SRD Custom Fuel Lines § Syvecs S6 Exhaust: § BoostLogic 4inch exhaust system § SRD custom 4inch Midpipe § SRD custom 4inch Downpipe Zirotec coated Suspension, Wheels, Tires & Brakes: § Tein Super Streets with top mounts § Do Luck Rear Tension Set § 9X19 Trafficstar RTS Front § 11X19 Trafficstar RTS Rear § 265/30/19 Toyo T1R Front § 295/30/19 Toyo R888 Rear § 8pot 380mm Ksport front big brake kit § 6pot 356mm Ksport rear big brake kit § Ksport custom orange calipers Interior & ICE: § Full black leather re-trim with orange piping § Dash surround panels wrapped in grey alcantara § Black carpet and custom made floor mats § Rear panels covered in black alcantera and orange stitching § SRD battery in boot relocation kit § SRD Custom aluminium battery tray § SRD Fusebox to boot relocation kit § SRD Washer bottle to boot reocation kit § JT-Innovations touch screen setup Exterior: § Do Luck Front bumper § SRD Custom aluminium under tray § Veilside Sideskirts § Oem Rear Spats § New pre faclift Headlights § Facelift Rear Lights § Clear Side Repeaters § Fully repainted in Lamboughini Orange Performance: § 558bhp 500ftlbs - 446.7 whp @ 1.6bar § Tuned & Maintained by Lee P @ Supra Racing Developments § Mapped by Ryan G @ 2bartuning § Built and Owned by Rob Mitchell @ Darnley AutoWorks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 What power do you think a cast manifold starts to lose out to a tubular and what would you base that on? What he's read on Supraforums.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc_p Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 What power do you think a cast manifold starts to lose out to a tubular and what would you base that on? Was doing loads of research on all of this before I bought my single parts and the general consensus appeared to be that the top end was around the 600bhp mark, after that it couldn't flow enough to make any further mods worthwhile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandan Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 what he's read on supraforums.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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