hodge Posted July 26, 2012 Author Share Posted July 26, 2012 Throw a VVT-i head on there if you want it smooth! I couldn't hope with the rattle at idle, or that funny shaped plug cover Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny g Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 I couldn't hope with the rattle at idle, or that funny shaped plug cover You've got issues Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hodge Posted July 26, 2012 Author Share Posted July 26, 2012 Great to see this thread John. I will follow this very closely, to get a max of info when I start in a couple of months. I will also go for Mahle pistons, and my Carillo H-beam HD rods have already arrived together with L19's. Good luck Nice setup. I'll be ordering my pistons in a few weeks. So I can then get the measurements to have the block machined. - - - Updated - - - You've got issues Well that's just common knowledge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hartmann Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 any notes on going for the Pro-series rod over the "higher ranking" Carillo h-beams ? it seems like they also can take some serious power, what are Pro-series ratings ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 I have the BC pro series rods in my engine, seem well up to the job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hodge Posted July 26, 2012 Author Share Posted July 26, 2012 any notes on going for the Pro-series rod over the "higher ranking" Carillo h-beams ? it seems like they also can take some serious power, what are Pro-series ratings ? These are a much cheaper option that Carrillo rods. And judging by the abuse Jamie has given his engine over the last year or so, they'll take whatever I can throw at them and more. There rated to over 1000hp so it's all good there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hodge Posted July 26, 2012 Author Share Posted July 26, 2012 Ok guys, I have more questions. OVERSIZED VALVES........ What are the pros and cons of these. What will they give me and what sort of compromise is involved with how the engine runs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 They are rated at 1800bhp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hartmann Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 I have the BC pro series rods in my engine, seem well up to the job. sure looks like it is it the same rods paul have on the web-site ? http://whifbitzperformancetuning.co.uk/toyota-supra-engine-components-bottom-parts-brian-crower-p-14852.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 (edited) sure looks like it is it the same rods paul have on the web-site ? http://whifbitzperformancetuning.co.uk/toyota-supra-engine-components-bottom-parts-brian-crower-p-14852.html Yeah, got mine from SRD, was a while back but they was £600 iirc Edited July 26, 2012 by JamieP (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaan W Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 Yeah, got mine from SRD, was a while back but they was £600 iirc Mine were around £750 after shippin, import tax etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hodge Posted July 26, 2012 Author Share Posted July 26, 2012 I have the BC pro series rods in my engine, seem well up to the job. You got that right lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 Mine were around £750 after shippin, import tax etc. Future motorsport list them at £618. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hodge Posted July 26, 2012 Author Share Posted July 26, 2012 Yeah, got mine from SRD, was a while back but they was £600 iirc I was quoted £680 from SRD last night. Still a good price for piece of mind though. There in stock too which is always a bonus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hodge Posted July 26, 2012 Author Share Posted July 26, 2012 I've just started reading Tony Licence's engine build thread. This thing is basically a complete how-to on building an engine. It's perfect for a reference. It's answered a lot of my questions already and shed some light on potential issues I would probably have had encountered. I'm pretty lucky I guess, I work in a machine shop so have access to all the measuring equiptment I'll need for the build, so that's going to save me a lot of money for sure. So, piston size recommendations, do I go for 86.5mm or 87mm. Again, what are the pro's and cons. Or is it just a case of how oval or damaged the bores are in the block? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaan W Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 You wont gain much displacement at all from going with a bigger piston its just mainly for how warn your cylinders are. I would go 86.5mm to avoid removing too much material between cylinders. Are you going the full treatment for the block, plateu honing, line boring etc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hodge Posted July 26, 2012 Author Share Posted July 26, 2012 It won't be getting line bored, but yeah, i want it decked, bored, honed and cleaned out. Also most likely having all the core plugs replaced too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaan W Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 It won't be getting line bored, but yeah, i want it decked, bored, honed and cleaned out. Also most likely having all the core plugs replaced too. For the sake of a few quid I would definatley replace the plugs to inspect for any kind of debris that may have got stuck over the years. The best cleaning method would be a caustic soda bath but im not sure if anyone does this these days I think they just jet wash it. You might need it line bored if your changing the bearings but im not 100% sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hartmann Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 i´v just ran out of english glossary wahat are the "core plugs" ? is it what we i bacon-land could call "freezing protect" if the water freezes the block dont crack but bust the plug ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaan W Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 i´v just ran out of english glossary wahat are the "core plugs" ? is it what we i bacon-land could call "freezing protect" if the water freezes the block dont crack but bust the plug ? Yes core plugs/freeze plugs same thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hodge Posted July 26, 2012 Author Share Posted July 26, 2012 For the sake of a few quid I would definatley replace the plugs to inspect for any kind of debris that may have got stuck over the years. The best cleaning method would be a caustic soda bath but im not sure if anyone does this these days I think they just jet wash it. You might need it line bored if your changing the bearings but im not 100% sure. You can get various sized bearing to compensate for and wear issues. If it had to be line bored then I would fit a set of billet mains. I'll have the journals all checked prior to machining to make sure there's no issues there before the machining work starts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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