ashbuster Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 i was wondering what sort of rivets are used for body work? are they just normal pop rivets? and dont they leave a hole in the middle? will be used for ridox rear arches Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripped_fear Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 Speak to Adam as he has his riveted on iirc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashbuster Posted July 12, 2012 Author Share Posted July 12, 2012 looking at it again it does look like normal pop rivets but adam used smaller ones i think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sideexitsupra Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 Yeah, the ones on Add's car are quite small. Heard a tip from Jurgen at Santapod. If you are going to leave them unpainted, put some clear nail varnish on the heads. Otherwise they will rust! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashbuster Posted July 12, 2012 Author Share Posted July 12, 2012 hi mate i was going to put the clear over the top of them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellonman Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 you would not use normal pop rivets with a car they need to be the alloy close rivet , IE its one solid rivet to prevent corrotion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashbuster Posted July 13, 2012 Author Share Posted July 13, 2012 (edited) yeah mate im more talking about the style the ones i need im sure they are like these http://www.steam4fun.com/50-X-GENUINE-MAMOD-LARGE-ALLOY-RIVETS because the solid rivets have to be hit from behind dont they? which would be impossible http://www.gasgoo.com/showroom/marketspareparts/auto-products/1316593.html Edited July 13, 2012 by ashbuster (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garethr Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 Apparently you can buy POP® rivets with stainless steel or bronze or alloy pins (and even stainless rivets, although I suppose your hand operated riveter might not be up to squeezing them). http://www.rivetwise.co.uk/search/index.asp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangerous brain Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 (edited) The aviation industry use cherry rivets mainly these days which I have to say are pretty good rivets. Avdels are good but you have to mill them down. Solids are the best bet but like you said you need to get to the back of them to react them and you need a sensible gun (not a frickin air hammer) to blat em down properly. Also solids don't work well/at all with composites and plastics. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SURPLUS-AIRCRAFT-RIVETS-JOB-LOT-CHERRYS-SOLIDS-TAP-KS-ETC-/130727089695?pt=UK_CPV_Aviation_SM&hash=item1e6ff1161f That lots not a bad selection. Clearly a bit of a rob from a mod program of some sort. Edited July 13, 2012 by dangerous brain (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashbuster Posted July 13, 2012 Author Share Posted July 13, 2012 thanks for the links guys its mainly for the rear ridox fenders/arches, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangerous brain Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 4-03 4-04 countersink cherry max rivets should in theory cover most 2 sheet thick automotive applications. You would of course have to countersink the plastic so it sat flush. Drill size is 3.2mm or 1/8th inch, keep a decent edge distance of 7mm from the edge to the middle of the drilled hole and maintain a spacing of between 3/4" and 1" and you will have aviation grade joints ish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashbuster Posted July 13, 2012 Author Share Posted July 13, 2012 hi mate is that what these are? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy442 Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 If you need rivets, I'm your man, working in an aircraft structural repair bay and all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashbuster Posted July 13, 2012 Author Share Posted July 13, 2012 pm'd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangerous brain Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 hi mate is that what these are? [ATTACH=CONFIG]154643[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]154644[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]154643[/ATTACH] No No and more NOOOO!! If you fit countersink rivets correctly you will never know they are even there! By the looks of it our Craig is the man that can sort you right out with the rivets you need. Now you just have to hire the appropriatte equipment to pull em down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashbuster Posted July 13, 2012 Author Share Posted July 13, 2012 i want the rivets to be shown mate, otherwise i could have just bonded and smoothed them on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobD Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 You can get rivets that act as studs also, use them with anodised Allen bolts! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashbuster Posted July 13, 2012 Author Share Posted July 13, 2012 (edited) are they the rivnuts that ive been told about and you then screw a dome allen bolt in? would be nice with some blue anodized bolts thats if they come in small heads Edited July 13, 2012 by ashbuster (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangerous brain Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 WHY? You could just drill a hole and nut and bolt it on with lovely chromium headed bolts from B&Q's bathroom dept if that is your requirement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangerous brain Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 You can get rivets that act as studs also, use them with anodised Allen bolts! Now you are on about Hi-Loks or Hi-Lites. You need access to the back of the job to put them in. They are extremely strong fasteners used when you are not expecting to have to remove the fastener as opposed to nuts and bolts when you may have to remove them for maintenance activity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashbuster Posted July 13, 2012 Author Share Posted July 13, 2012 (edited) i would like to go with how it should be, how the ridox kit is fitted in these photos blue anodized pop rivets is what im looking for i think, if anyone knows to where i can get some from please let me know Edited July 13, 2012 by ashbuster (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangerous brain Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 You want some pull up fasteners of some sort. The size of those fasteners is very large. That means you will need a very big gun to pull them up. Last time I checked guns big enough to pull that size fastener were massive prices. You can rent guns like that but again be prepared for some cost rapeage! You could produce a very similar effect by getting hold of the right sized Hi-Loks and taking the anodized coat off the collar and laquering the collars post fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashbuster Posted July 13, 2012 Author Share Posted July 13, 2012 thanks bud ill have a closer look when i get the parts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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