Angry Acorn Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Hi all, So its time now I think that I join the big boys, had the car 2 years now and I need more power! So iv been looking around at a few right up's and options and this is what i'd like to know, I'm going to buy a TT lump, shall i go VVTi or GTE? then the N/A 2JZ I currently have is amazing very tight and strong, so should I/ is it advisable to just strip the TT lump and just bolt on what i need to the N/A to make it a TT? or should I do a complete engine swop? I can get a TT Lump for very little where I live and they seem to be in pretty good condition! but obviously changing an engine in a car cause reg problems etc! What if i bought and swopped the engine then developed my N/A into a single turbo? Im aiming for 600bhp + -, what do you guys suggest? I would like to get this right with very little headaches! Any help would be much appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noz Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Do your research. The forum is covered in na-t vs TT swap threads. People have their own opinions and many miss the advantages and disadvantages of both. Best advice is to research the various discussions and find the different points of both processes. People will be swayed towards what they currently own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Yep. Do a search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy442 Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Sell the N/a, buy a TT. In the end probably the cheapest and most pain free way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Acorn Posted July 11, 2012 Author Share Posted July 11, 2012 that wat i thought but i can buy and do a full engine swop for around 4thousand dollars US, to buy and import a new sup will cost alot more! and fine fine fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chucky_waR Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Is it easy and cheap to run 600bhp+ from a stock TT swap..? What about your gearbox? Is it stock Auto? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chucky_waR Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Sell the N/a, buy a TT. In the end probably the cheapest and most pain free way. I agree with you.. Sell the N/A and buy a TT.. There are a few good ones on sale now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NathWraith Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Keron can do a TT swap for around 2.5k iirc. But it is the gearbox + diff you then need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supraGZaerotop Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 sell the na and get TT, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Sell the GE engine, buy the GTE strip it down, clean up, check all tolerances and rebuild with brand new OEM Toyota parts. What gearbox do you have? Are you in the UK? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_jekyll Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 im doing an na-t auto at the moment using a david_p hybrid auto box, should be 550bhp+ when done. cheap as chips too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noz Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 I hit 373bhp on a fair budget as well, manual without any issues. Welsh hit 410bhp on his manual NA-T. Not heard any issues there either. Craig, you still selling your gt40 garret? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_jekyll Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 I hit 373bhp on a fair budget as well, manual without any issues. Welsh hit 410bhp on his manual NA-T. Not heard any issues there either. Craig, you still selling your gt40 garret? yes my boy , if you want i do verry good price Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dim Sum Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 What everyone has already mentioned really. There's alot more than just looking for the engine. Has some members already mentioned, the diff, brakes, ecu looms and etc. Unless you have alot of time, patience and money than its up to you. Remember if you want 600BHP you need to spend more money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Acorn Posted July 11, 2012 Author Share Posted July 11, 2012 ok well my N/A came with the supra big brakes as well as the 6speed gearbox all im missing other than a TT or T engine is the right Diff as well as a clutch ( I do have one rated up to 550bhp but its noisy very noisy). I feel the engine swop is going to be alot less hassle mechanical wise? I live in zambia in southern africa, im correct in saying ill need an ecu? or would the engine come with one? any tips when looking at and for a new engine? Much appreciated to those who actually supplied some advice! P.s I can get anything from UK aswell as South Africa with very little hassle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
listy Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 You will need a TT ecu, but if going for more power then at least a good piggy back, preferably an aftermarket ecu. There are a couple of single turbos being broken right now. You may be able to get the majority of parts required from them if you have a ganders in the for sale section. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Acorn Posted July 11, 2012 Author Share Posted July 11, 2012 yep yep just had a look around there and seems like everything i need is for sale! its a sign i tell you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 ok well my N/A came with the supra big brakes as well as the 6speed gearbox all im missing other than a TT or T engine is the right Diff as well as a clutch ( I do have one rated up to 550bhp but its noisy very noisy). I feel the engine swop is going to be alot less hassle mechanical wise? I live in zambia in southern africa, im correct in saying ill need an ecu? or would the engine come with one? any tips when looking at and for a new engine? Much appreciated to those who actually supplied some advice! P.s I can get anything from UK aswell as South Africa with very little hassle. If you are going to run the 2JZ-GTE engine with the stock TT turbos then you will need a stock manual 2JZ-GTE ECU and harness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Acorn Posted July 11, 2012 Author Share Posted July 11, 2012 I seem to be finding lots of VVTI TT engines at the moment this side, should I stay away from these? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guigsy Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Yes. The wiring can be a complete nightmare by all accounts and you will need other bits you don't have Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Acorn Posted July 11, 2012 Author Share Posted July 11, 2012 Yes. The wiring can be a complete nightmare by all accounts and you will need other bits you don't have thats a no to VVTI? haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 I seem to be finding lots of VVTI TT engines at the moment this side, should I stay away from these? What year is your Supra? If it's a pre-facelift model then I'd fit a non-VVTi 2JZ-GTE, it is a facelift then the VVTi 2JZ-GTE would be less of a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Acorn Posted July 11, 2012 Author Share Posted July 11, 2012 I have a 97 jap spec, so its a face lift yes? grey headlight and rear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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