Guest jamesgui Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 A local garage. Will the car run with the aux off,what about the access slack in the belt with the aux redundant ? james Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 You can run the engine for a short amount of time to see if your noise goes away, obviously with the aux belt removed the a/c, alternator, water pump and power steering wont work as their driven by the aux belt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jamesgui Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 Thanks Dunk,just let me get this clear,the belt you have highlighted in yellow can be removed and the engine can be rune safely for a short amount of time ? Is this belt not part of the timing set up? forgive my ignorance thanks for your patience James Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 The belt i have highlighted can be removed but not for too long as it drives the water pump so your engine will over heat if run for any great length of time. The timing belt is a totally differant belt and drives the 2 cam shafts from the crank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jamesgui Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 Thanks Durk, got my silly head round that,was about to post the penny had dropped, have been unwell lately and the tabs make things a bit misty sometimes. To be honest the noise sounds like its coming from behind the top of the plastic cover covering the timing belt? Is the aux belt easy to put back on again, no need for ra or anything to come out? Much appreciated help and advise James Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 Should be simple enough to put back on, just reverse how you take it off and make sure it goes round the pulleys the right way. This photo shows the cam belt going round both the cam pulleys and down to the crank pulley which you cant see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 Sounds like the cam belt has been put on with one run on the wrong side of the guide pin. Needs sorting straight away before some real damage occurs, if that is what's happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jamesgui Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 Good morning, and thanks to everyone for taking the time to try and help. I am going to remove the aux belt and run the car, the noise is normally apparent very quickly, so that should be the acid test if the noise is in the aux belt run. But I am *fairly* confident that the noise is somewhere behind on the timing belt run. I have a stethoscope and it clearly picks the noise out when rested on top front of the timing belt cover. We were still looking for a couple of my fingers last night - The guy who carried out the job bluffed that the noise was probably there before and I didn't notice it, but the one thing I am sure of is that this engine was remarkably whisper silent on tick over-definitly no noise. I will check back with the findings. Best wishes James Once again thanks for all the help James Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOGIE Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 If it turns out not to be the Aux belt as Dunk says and you think its coming from the cambelt id get a known certified mobile mechanic out to the car asap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d_d Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 Strange Noise, On the video it sounds like it goes after a minute and then you just hear it running mint. Sounds like something rubbing, try taking the belt off as mentioned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jamesgui Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 Logie, I have already put plan B into action. I worked with cars all my life,but have had health problems lately which make me forgetful and short term memory is melted sometimes,its hard to believe what can happen to someone in such a short period of time-but hats another story. Good wishes Thanks Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jamesgui Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 Removed the aux belt and the noise was still there,slightly clearer,probably because the other moving parts were silent. Noise is just behind the cover where the front centre bolt secures the cover. Could the belt be too tight? Its a nasty occult noise. Going to garage tomorrow James Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 I stand on what I diagnosed earlier That's my best shot from over the Irish Sea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jamesgui Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 Thanks Chris, will pu that on the table tomorrow. Will post tomorrow night Thanks again Hope you are right!! James Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jamesgui Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 Well, here we have it. Took timing covers off and the noise was diminished and became quite subtle , the acoustics in the cover where amplifying the noise- but still was not solved,everything looking in order to be honest. I noticed on top of the engine recommended oil w10-30 semi. I went to Toyota and they asked what oil I had used. I had used 5 30 fully synth.Also recommended by Toyota. They advised me to change back and gave me 10-40 semi. Changed oil and toyota filter, noise completely gone, not even a single remnant of it..gone kaput bye bye. Cured Maybe the engine was used to the heaver oil? I don't know? I would like to hear post mortiem reflection from anyone on the forum Many thanks again to everyone for listening,patience and help.Good result Sincerely appreciated Jim in Belfast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antno Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 That's sounds a bit odd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David P Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 (edited) N/A's can use W/30 oils yet I thought T.T.s' minimum was W/40? Whatever, that's what your oil pump is telling you. Edited June 11, 2012 by David P (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jamesgui Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 Its a 1995 TT an it says on top of the cover use W10-30. Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David P Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 That was in 1995, there has been some water under the bridge since then and the slightly heavier 10W/40 is now better suited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyson Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 That was in 1995, there has been some water under the bridge since then and the slightly heavier 10W/40 is now better suited. Opie advised me 10W40. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David P Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?56684-FAQ-Oil-Fluid-Interval-Capacity-Steering-Brake-Coolant-Diff-Engine&highlight=oil+viscosity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jza800 Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 Well, here we have it. Took timing covers off and the noise was diminished and became quite subtle , the acoustics in the cover where amplifying the noise- but still was not solved,everything looking in order to be honest. I noticed on top of the engine recommended oil w10-30 semi. I went to Toyota and they asked what oil I had used. I had used 5 30 fully synth.Also recommended by Toyota. They advised me to change back and gave me 10-40 semi. Changed oil and toyota filter, noise completely gone, not even a single remnant of it..gone kaput bye bye. Cured Maybe the engine was used to the heaver oil? I don't know? I would like to hear post mortiem reflection from anyone on the forum Many thanks again to everyone for listening,patience and help.Good result Sincerely appreciated Jim in Belfast Did this oil change fix your knock/rattle has i have the same rattle/knock on mine??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 Have you done the Tipex test on the crank damper. if it's slipping badly it may affect the A/C and the PAS. Is the clutch engaging on the A/C pulley? You can see the pulley drive the inner section attached to the shaft if you get someone to turn the A/C on and off a few times while you watch the front of the A/C pulley. if it's not engaging it may be an electrical issue or it may have lost gas. Low gas pressure means the safety switch is not operated and the clutch will not engage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jza800 Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 if it is me you are answering, my a/c dont work as there is no gas in it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 if it is me you are answering, my a/c dont work as there is no gas in it... No, it was James, I just can't keep up with all YOUR problems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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