Stu_Fraser Posted August 7, 2005 Share Posted August 7, 2005 Seen one of these today, looked really nice it did Unfortunately he didnt want to play, what are the stats on these things and how do you reckon a BPU Sup would fair against one... I think i could have had him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seb Posted August 7, 2005 Share Posted August 7, 2005 Standard will give it a run for its money, BPU will give it a good kicking. Standard Monaro is something like 320bhp, VXR with quad pipes is 400bhp, but it's a heavy car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick Posted August 7, 2005 Share Posted August 7, 2005 A standard Vs a standard supe = supe gets it. VXR (400ish bhp) Vs a BPU supe = supe again As seb says, heavy things. They're giving them away now though, seen them loose 7-8grand within the first 6months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitelightning Posted August 7, 2005 Share Posted August 7, 2005 Cheap run around then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnA Posted August 7, 2005 Share Posted August 7, 2005 The monaro will probably be my next project, when I get bored with the 2JZ Nice base for a twin turbo, lots of cubes, looks sexy, strong transmision, parts available from the States, steep depreciation in the first 3 years... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu_Fraser Posted August 8, 2005 Author Share Posted August 8, 2005 So the Sup would win..... thought as much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivan Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 They said on TG that Va**hall are discontinuing the Monaro. Already? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnA Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 The Monaro 2dr could be a bargain in a couple of years time. Build quality is a bit dodgy, at least on the ones I've inspected up close. That won't help residuals very much. But it looks the dog's dangles, especially in black, and that Chevvy V8 just *begs* for a couple of turbos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerotop Dave Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 I think it looks so dull though - like an 80s throwback. They could have done more with the body shape. And it's a Vauxhall... Speaking of Top Gear and build quality, did you see the dashboard fit on the Ford pickup?! Blimey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnA Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 it's not a Vauxhall unfortunately, it's a Holden, originally made in Oz. That means you haven't got easy/cheap parts availability. The body shape of the 2door is a cross between Aston Martin and a Calibra, it is gorgeous in my eyes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerotop Dave Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 I'd like it more if it had Holden badges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
attilauk Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 it's not a Vauxhall unfortunately, it's a Holden, originally made in Oz. That means you haven't got easy/cheap parts availability. Aaah but its sold in the states as a Pontiac GTO so im sure there will be some cheap parts available for it i love the look of the monaro, especially the VXR version Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 I think it looks so dull though - like an 80s throwback. They could have done more with the body shape. And it's a Vauxhall... Yep, I agree with all that. Speaking of Top Gear and build quality, did you see the dashboard fit on the Ford pickup?! Blimey. It was really poor but I wondered if that was due to it having been converted to RHD? He sort of glossed over the fact that it had been converted, not saying by whom. I bet you can't just order a f150 from your local Ford dealer, so where can you get one from? ...Not that there's going to be a huge demand for them after Clarkson's review Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irfan_habib Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 Yep, I agree with all that. It was really poor but I wondered if that was due to it having been converted to RHD? He sort of glossed over the fact that it had been converted, not saying by whom. I bet you can't just order a f150 from your local Ford dealer, so where can you get one from? ...Not that there's going to be a huge demand for them after Clarkson's review Actually, I have been in one of these in Canada, a LHD version, and the interior does look and feel very dated and cheap. In fact it looked just like the RHD one on TG last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnA Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 I'm not sure we're talking about the same cars here. The Monaros I've been inside look neither dated nor cheap. Maybe there are 'poverty' spec monaros, I'm not sure. Same with Supras perhaps, I had a friend who wants to replace his Calibra turbo but thinks that all supras inside are drab, without accessories, full of cheap plastic and nasty cloth. Nothing is further from the truth, as we know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprasteve Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 Vauxhall Monaro 347 BHP 1658 KGS 212.65 BHP/TON 5.23 0-60mph 12.04 0-100mph 6.80 60-100mph 13.49 1/4mile @ 105.85 Vauxhall Monaro VXR 5.7 382 BHP 1688 KGS 229.94 BHP/TON 4.92 0-60mph 11.00 0-100mph 6.07 60-100mph 13.14 1/4 mile @ 109.31 Vauxhall Monaro VXR 6.0 398 BHP 1688 KGS 239.57 BHP/TON 4.77 0-60mph 10.53 0-100mph 5.76 60-100mph 12.98 1/4 mile @ 111.01 standard Monaro similar to standard TT VXR 6.0 similar to BPU supra ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanK Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 I'm not sure we're talking about the same cars here. You're not, they're talking about the F150! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprasteve Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 just found a tuning company that tune them. Still fancy your chances ??? "Stage 3 - 310kW @ the wheels (circa 550 BHP) Stage 3 with the LS1 engine is an increase in displacement by increasing either the bore or the stroke of the engine. Using either method will result in a swept capacity of near on 6.2 litres, and provide a healthy boost to bottom-end torque delivery. A real benefit of fitting a stoker conversion is that the inherent out-of-round bore and ill-fitting piston problems of the LS1 engine will be instantly cured. Included in this package is a strengthened crank, rods, pistons and just about everything needed to build a bullet-proof engine. As the RPM limit can easily be increased at this point , valvetrain strength will come under the spotlight, and at this point we offer uprated valve springs, retainers, and roller rockers of various configurations." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerotop Dave Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 Supra is thirsty enough - I wonder what the mpg is on the Monaro? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpie Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 Now this looks better: http://www.autoweek.com/article.cms?articleId=101120 PONTIAC GTO RAM AIR 6 CONCEPT ON SALE: n/a PRICE: n/a POWERTRAIN: 6.4-liter, 575-hp, 500-lb-ft V8; rwd, six-speed manual CURB WEIGHT: 3900 pounds (est.) 0 to 60 MPH: 4.5 seconds (est.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnA Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 I've seen somewhere closeup pictures of a prototype twin turboed monaro. Pretty neat, the turbos were below the sump level though, needing scavenging pumps to drag the oil back up. A fortunate byproduct of this awkward positions was that the heat of the turbos wouldn't end up in the engine bay. They'd be asking in the order for £10K for the conversion, but I'm sure it can be done for less... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warmup.me.uk Posted August 9, 2005 Share Posted August 9, 2005 Its the sound of a V8 that dose it for me sod any thing else you set there and just put you foot on the peddle and ummmmmm makes me go all cold lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garethr Posted August 9, 2005 Share Posted August 9, 2005 I've seen somewhere closeup pictures of a prototype twin turboed monaro. Somehow, turbos on American V8s always seem wrong to me. I guess I associate turbos with attempts to get lots of power out of "little" revvy European and Japanese fours and sixes. Yank V8s should be about brute force, superchargers, and torque. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGav Posted August 9, 2005 Share Posted August 9, 2005 Met a stock one 6l last night leaving the house... and he did play... I kept up with him, and I didn't push my car past 4k RPM, I didn't go past him because my fueling issues would have caused issues.... But I certainly stayed glued to his tail, so I reckon if I was running right it could have been interesting... I was impressed by the monaro, I must be honest... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnA Posted August 9, 2005 Share Posted August 9, 2005 Somehow, turbos on American V8s always seem wrong to me. I can't argue with the off-boost pulling power of a 6.0 I remember when I was helping a friend supercharge a Yamaha VMax, the motorbike equivalent to the chevvy V8. The dam thing became unrideable because it was getting even more power where it didn't need it. The yank V8s need help at the top of the rev-range, exactly where a twin-turbo setup would help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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