Carbon_Bullet Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 hi, in the process of adding new facier dials to my MKIV Supra...do the needles just pull off??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TokyoRich Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 yep, use a fork to prise them off evenly or two teaspoons either side. Be gentle! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carbon_Bullet Posted May 16, 2012 Author Share Posted May 16, 2012 yep, use a fork to prise them off evenly or two teaspoons either side. Be gentle! thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supra Gaz Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 I use the two tea spoon method, plastic spoons, metal ones mark the dial faces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heckler Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 i knew I had written a guide! http://www.internetwork.org.uk/dial/clocks.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraStar 3000 Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 Be very careful. Make a reverence spot if necessary and put the needles back in exactly the same location. After fitting my Glo dials to my old car, I had the fastest NA in the country. Would easily do over 200mph. Or, at least thats what my speedo showed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashbuster Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 dont think it would matter with the speedo it didnt work for me, i put them in exactly the same position and was still messed up i had to put it back on when the car was running to get it in the right place Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitz Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 What I've always wondered is why does the car need to be moving to put the speedo needle back on? Would it not work if you just put it back on '0' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heckler Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 What I've always wondered is why does the car need to be moving to put the speedo needle back on? Would it not work if you just put it back on '0' nope, at zero speed there is no signal been sent to the needle so it will sit below the 0 mph mark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carbon_Bullet Posted May 16, 2012 Author Share Posted May 16, 2012 oh its all going off now :/ ....pulled of a wire an snapped the little black pin which holds the needle lol!!! just my luck an now i need to put the dials back on when the car is running!!! wish i never bothered!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashbuster Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 lol you seem to have luck just like mine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supra Gaz Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 You dont need to be moving to put the needle back on, for a start its dangerous, for second its stupid, for third put your car in neutral and a idle, take a photo at where it levels, then when you are putting them back on have the car in neutral again and pop them on. Job done, no driving down the road trying to put a fiddly needle on, mowing down old ladies and small children, no jail. Fun times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashbuster Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 i just put mine on 0 when the car was idling and its fine, i have a boost controller that tells me what the rpm is so that part was easy for me, but just remember what your car idles at warm so its easier to get the right rpm. same with temp, make sure its at the normal temperature so drive it for a while then put it where it usually sits edit* mines facelift Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweettom Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 That's a good guide from here: http://www.supraforums.com/forum/showthread.php?319961-TRD-320-km-h In order to have the TRD 320KM/H Speedo working into the USDM/EURO/GENERAL WORLD LHD supra you will need to switch the gauge face only (AKA gauge dish, dish) 1)Take out your old Speedo out from the cluster. 1) Move the orange needle to the 120 km/h mark, (that’s 12 o’clock position) 3) Try Loosen the dish by taking up in both SIDES - and SIDES only (lifting up Gently left and right sides of Dish)- take extra care or u will break the needle. 4) When you got the dish loosened from the glue, TURN the dish AND needle TOGETHER 2 COMPLETE rounds ANTI clock wise ( I don`t understand why the dish need to be moved, is it because the rest needle is built into it???, if so I will get clarified) - to take the spring preload off the needle – then AGAIN keep the needle at "120KM/H (12 o-clock position)" holding IT (the needle) up from its "SIDES" (30 and 210 km/h) 5) Make sure the the dish is at the "correct" position BUT turned 2 rounds anticlock wise 6) Notice (make a mark) where the 120 and 300 km/h marks of your MPH speedo are positioned. 7) Hold the Speedo horizontal to see where the needle rest (this is the exact centre of the spring power)- needle wont turn either directions if its perfectly horizontal and without spring preload on it. 8) Notice and MARK THAT NEEDLE point onto the DISH (mine was at 270 km/h) set a reference in the white plastic surrounding area or take a digital pic of its position with good visual reference points. 9) Now take off the needle using the tool above or the shoes wires pulling equal from both sides, some others would use two spoons, works like a couple tiny pry bars from each side, use a paper bellow so you won’t scratch the surface with the forced applied by the forks or spoons on the dish. 10) Now you can take off the old dish - LEAVING the glue on the speedo - that is going to be the only thing holding the new TRD 320KM/H dish 11)Now - in the same way as described above (if you want to keep the trd mechanism/spring preload working and accurate) - take off the TRD dish from the TRD Speedo you just bought - that is the only thing you will use ..., but …if you don`t mind, and want to save some time, remove the needle carefully WITHOUT turning it first and then lift the disch carefully. 12)To have the TRD dish fit your cluster, you need to cut off all the fix points so it becomes completely circular - actually very close the black area of the dish , don`t worry, the glue will keep it in place. 13) Put the TRD 320KM/H speedo dish back in your mechanism - but DO NOT make it stick HARD to the glue - just slightly "resting" on the glue is OK by now... 14) Rest the TRD in the exact same place as the original dish - using the 120 and 300 km/h mark you made on step 6. 15) Now put back the needle at the same reading where it "rested" prior to taking it off (Remember that MY MARK WAS AT 270KM/H, remember yours). 16) Now turn the needle to the 120 km/h mark (you can only turn it anti clock wise up to 120) and lift the sides (30 and 210 km/h) turn the dish and the needle TOGETHER 2 rounds clockwise to preload the needle again). 17) CHECK TRD Dish positioning again dish using the 120km/h-300km/h marks. 18) NOW make it stick FIRM to the glue and make sure the glue is working good - holding the dish firm ! 19)Make sure the needle moves freely up and down from rest needle point. 20) Make sure the dish is centred. 21) Put the cluster back on to a final road test. Good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweettom Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 or use this idea with a wire behind of it, http://www.rallybeater.com/thewhitecar/images/gauges8_small.jpg This shouldn`t scratch the dish and apply equal force to the needle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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